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History Lesson 101 A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
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Posted on 11/17/2007 8:00:29 PM PST by dvan

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953,

about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ In 1911, Turkey established gun control.

From 1915 to 1917,

1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ Germany established gun control in 1938 and

From 1939 to 1945,

a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ China established gun control in 1935.

From 1948 to 1952,

20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated ------------------------------ Guatemala established gun control in 1964.

From 1964 to 1981,

100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ Uganda established gun control in 1970.

From 1971 to 1979,

300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ Cambodia established gun control in 1956.

From 1975 to 1977,

one million educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ----------------------------- Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million. ------------------------------ It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

List of 7 items: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent Australia-wide,

armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.

With guns, we are 'citizens'.

Without them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; crime; guns; society
A timely message lest history repeat itself!
1 posted on 11/17/2007 8:00:30 PM PST by dvan
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To: dvan

Although the Nazis made good use of gun laws, I believe gun control was established under the Weimar Republic. Such laws ironically were put in place to keep them out of the hands of the Nazis and communists.


2 posted on 11/17/2007 8:04:29 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: dvan

Ditto, thanks.


3 posted on 11/17/2007 8:04:34 PM PST by givemELL
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To: dvan

bump


4 posted on 11/17/2007 8:16:06 PM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: dvan

Thnaks. Although I do not own guns myself, my next door neighbor is a fully armed, Dallas cop. I sleep better that way.

And in Texas, car-jacking is now almost non-existent. Too many window breakers and would-be car thieves ended up eating lead too often.


5 posted on 11/17/2007 8:16:12 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: dvan

bookmark


6 posted on 11/17/2007 8:19:06 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: dvan

I think that even here in the USA that gun ownership has caused restraint on the government.

Think of the 90s, there was a little effort by the government to over assert themselves and it resulted in many deaths that caused bad publicity and led to the government restraining itself.

Anti-gun people mock the idea that armed civilians can defeat the government and I don’t disagree with them.

I make two points, one is that if we are armed to the teeth then it isn’t just a matter of our sons in the military performing their duty to impose order.

If we are armed then they have to kill us by the thousands and that is a whole different hurdle for a demigod to sell to our own uniformed children.

The second point is that while imposing a new order would be difficult enough in America, it would be hugely more difficult politically if the body count climbed into the countless thousands due to armed resistance.

I think that even liberals understand these arguments.


7 posted on 11/17/2007 8:23:28 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: dvan
Would you please source these Australian numbers? Without the bona fides, they will be useless in debating the gun grabbers. Not that I am doubting you, but I always like to be very careful that the data I cite are verified.

Thanks.
8 posted on 11/17/2007 8:29:24 PM PST by Sudetenland (Liberals love "McCarthyism," they just believe he was targeting the wrong side.)
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To: Ajnin
Although the Nazis made good use of gun laws, I believe gun control was established under the Weimar Republic. Such laws ironically were put in place to keep them out of the hands of the Nazis and communists.

And I believe that the GCA of 1968 was directly based on the German gun control laws.

Mark

9 posted on 11/17/2007 8:38:15 PM PST by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: dvan

Thanks for the post.


10 posted on 11/17/2007 8:53:24 PM PST by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: Sudetenland
Would you please source these Australian numbers?...

"These figures are supported in the book "More Guns Less Crime" written by Dr. Lott, Professor of Law at the University of Chicago " http://www.federationofstates.org/australia.htm

I have not checked out this book but thought you may be interested.
11 posted on 11/17/2007 9:15:01 PM PST by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: txzman
You're not the only Texan who has mentioned that car-jacking is nearly non-existent...

If I had my druthers... I'd move to Texas; however, we still need to get this situation with illegals all sorted out.

12 posted on 11/17/2007 9:21:16 PM PST by erikm88
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To: dvan

***** Bookmark *****



13 posted on 11/17/2007 9:21:20 PM PST by NonLinear ("They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge." -Thomas B Reed)
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To: monkeycard

Thanks for the reference.


14 posted on 11/17/2007 9:27:58 PM PST by Sudetenland (Liberals love "McCarthyism," they just believe he was targeting the wrong side.)
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To: dvan
Best to live under our own gun rather that someone else’.
15 posted on 11/17/2007 9:48:16 PM PST by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: txzman
Thnaks. Although I do not own guns myself, my next door neighbor is a fully armed, Dallas cop. I sleep better that way.

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16 posted on 11/17/2007 10:14:30 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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17 posted on 11/17/2007 10:23:58 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: ansel12

“The second point is that while imposing a new order would be difficult enough in America, it would be hugely more difficult politically if the body count climbed into the countless thousands due to armed resistance.”

That’s making an assumption that there would be enough people with guns who would kill people with them. I don’t think there would be enough to save us from anything.


18 posted on 11/17/2007 10:40:21 PM PST by jwh_Denver (Eat at Joe's, lose it on a bungee jump.)
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To: jwh_Denver

“That’s making an assumption that there would be enough people with guns who would kill people with them. I don’t think there would be enough to save us from anything.”

It doesn’t take many.

The deaths during the 90s made a difference, and it wasn’t just the big cases, if you read enough newspapers you saw many individual and pairs or more, of deaths in confrontations with the federal govt. (The house always burns).

The weight of all that seemed to make the feds reevaluate how to approach things, and those brute force situations have ended.

In a worst case scenario the deaths of 50 here, 25 there,
500, etc. progressing into enough thousands that the publicity was unbearable, then that is a powerful force on any govt. In a country like ours we are especially sensitive to such things.


19 posted on 11/17/2007 10:54:02 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: ansel12

My opinion on the thought that armed citizens could not defeat an out of control government is:
It would not be “all of us against all of them” We would call our sons an daughters home from the military.
Police officers would be split, some of them come from gun owning families.
Who HAS the most guns?
I once read somewhere that only 5% of the populace was active in the American revolution. Once the line in the sand is drawn and crossed,It could be quite amazing what an armed populace could do.
Covert, guerrilla style operations,with random assassinations of opposition leaders,
Lots of spies and inside agents
Thats how our own CIA operates,They have had some success.
I hope our nation is a really long way from that situation, I have no doubt that someday the Tree must be watered or it will die, I sort of hope I’m through living my life before it becomes necessary.


20 posted on 11/18/2007 5:15:07 AM PST by Quickgun
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