Global Warming's Senseless Consensus

FOXNEWS ^ | November 09, 2007 | Steven Milloy

[skully]

Is there a "consensus" on global warming among the scientists participating in the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)?

To find out, I conducted the first-ever survey of scientists participating in the most recent IPCC report.

In early October, I e-mailed a six-question survey on climate change to 345 U.S. scientists involved in the IPCC's 2007 report.

[goldstategop]

The surest sign of a hoax is every one swears that's its real and you better sit down and shut up and not ask impertinent questions.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[LRS]

From the article:

One National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientist responded simply by dropping an f-bomb-laced insult into an e-mail.

Your tax dollars at work...

[randog]

Gore also said that it was wrong for the media to pay any attention to opinions outside the consensus.

And this guy came within a whisker of becoming the world's most powerful man...

[lepton]

Very few "climate scientists" even know how the measurements are made...even the primary ones making adjustments to the records. As example, there have been several papers analyzing the distribution of rural and urban measurement sites...but in NONE of the prominent studies did they actually go to a site, or look at it. They simply took a light map from a satellite picture and assumed that if it wasn't a brightly lit pixel at that point, that the site was rural. A recent volunteer effort has shown that in the U.S., roughly 7 of 8 sites ( of the first third inspected) are severely corrupted in the "High quality" REFERENCE USHCN - see www.surfacestations.org for photos. Based upon a general review of the rest of the worlds sites, the U.S. sites are in far better shape.

And then there is the mathematical treatment...which introduces systematic biases which transition in the 1990s. One is a change from dropping remainders to rounding, which adds about .06C in the 1990s all by itself. Another is a method of combining different records which frequently ends up with two site records with only scribal variances or ommissions having an "average" cooler than either record (cooling past records makes today look relatively warmer), and which result depends upon the order in which the records were incorporated into the program.

[supercat]

The surest sign of a hoax is every one swears that's its real and you better sit down and shut up and not ask impertinent questions.

Real scientists welcome meaningful challenges to their theories, since any such challenge will either:

1. Lead to experiments that will further support the theory.
2. Lead to experiments that will show problems with the theory, and thus save the scientists from continuing to pursue an incorrect theory.

Of course, some "scientists" are more interested in being right than in pursuing the truth.

[rbg81]

There is nothing bad about consensus in science—it happens all the time. However, consensus typically requires a proven theorem or a well-understood model that consistently demonstrates accurate results. The GW crowd have nothing of the sort—yet they have the gall to tell us we have to restructure the Global distribution of wealth in response to their innaccurate models. In the end, all the GW crowd has is arrogance and impertinence.

[rbg81]

Or, more to the point, some scientists are more concerned with getting politically motivated grants than in the truth.

[ricks_place]

Galileo’s detractors dismissed him as a heretic! Seems the Global Warmongers are todays flat-earthers!

[BigBobber]

The global warming political agenda requires all four of these premises to be true:

1) Global warming is measurable and is occurring
2) Human activity contributes significantly to global warming.
3) The advantages of global warming are outweighed by the disadvantages.
4) There are reasonable steps that can be taken to affect human driven global warming.

I have not seen enough evidence to convince myself that even premise 1 is proven.

This poll seems to suggest even the true believers are not willing to commit to premises 3 and 4.

This does not say much in favor of their gobal political movement.

[CedarDave]

One link:

http://www.icecap.us/

[mtg]

The surest sign of a hoax is every one swears that's its real and you better sit down and shut up and not ask impertinent questions.

This is exactly what evolutionists do also.

[sourcery]

Basic References:

• Challenge to Scientific Consensus on Global Warming: Analysis Finds Hundreds of Scientists Have Published Evidence Countering Man-Made Global Warming Fears
• The Year the Global Warming Hoax Died
• Hostages to a hoax
• Water Experts Find Earth’s Warming, Rainfall Linked to Sun
• Global Warming and Solar Radiation
• Milankovitch Cycles and Glaciation
• The Myth of Dangerous Human-Caused Climate Change (PDF)
• Up against the warming zealots
• When Physics Trumps Hysteria in Global Warming
• Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics (PDF)
• Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide
• Carbon dioxide did not end the last Ice Age
• Global Warming: Forecasts by Scientists versus Scientific Forecasts
• Geophysical, archeological and historical evidence support a solar-output model for climate change (PDF)
• Gamma rays and climate (PDF)
• Temperature vs. Cosmic Ray Flux
• Linkages between solar activity, climate predictability and water resource development (PDF)
• Proof on Ice: Southern Greenland Was Once Green; Earth Warmer
• Global Warming and Nature's Thermostat
• The Past and Future of Climate (PDF)
• Global warming is not a crisis
• The Great Global Warming Swindle
• IceCap

Lawrence Solomon's "The Deniers" (a series of articles on the view of scientists who have been labelled "Global Warming Deniers"):

• Science, not politics
• Statistics needed
• The original denier: into the cold
• End the chill
• They call this a consensus?
• The limits of predictability
• Unsettled science
• Models trump measurements
• The ice-core man
• The hurricane expert who stood up to UN junk science
• Polar scientists on thin ice
• The sun moves climate change
• Bright sun, warm Earth. Coincidence?
• Look to Mars for the truth on global warming
• Read the sunspots
• Forget warming - beware the new ice age
• Little Ice Age is still with us
• Fighting climate 'fluff'

Other References:

• An Unrepentant Prognosticator
• Alarmist global warming claims melt under scientific scrutiny
• Global warming 'is good and is not our fault'
• The Global Warming Myth
• Global Warming: A Chilling Perspective
• Strong Evidence Points to Earth's Proximity to Sun as Ice Age Trigger
• THE NEXT ICE AGE - NOW!
• Father of Climatology Throws Up at the Thought of Al Gore's 'An Inconvenient Truth'
• IPCC Scientists Challenge Al Gore’s View of Global Warming Consensus
• Swedish Scientist Accuses UN's IPCC of Falsifying Data and Destroying Evidence
• CO2 Science
• On the Phenomenon of Atmospheric Backradiation
• Does Man really affect Weather and Climate? Are the Interactions really understood?
• The Thermodynamic Atmosphere Effect - explained stepwise
• Global Warming and Climate Forcing by Recent Albedo Changes on Mars
• Climate Momentum Shifting: Prominent Scientists Reverse Belief in Man-made Global Warming - Now Skeptics
• The Real 'Inconvenient Truth'
• New findings indicate today's greenhouse gas levels not unusual
• Climate Change: Incorrect information on pre-industrial CO2
• Global Warming as a Religion
• I Was On the Global Warming Gravy Train (By David Evans)
• Global Warming: it's not caused by greenhouse gases says academic
• Rising Surface Temperatures Drive Back Winter Ice In Barents Sea, Researchers Findx
• Still Waiting for Greenhouse
• GREENIE WATCH
• Why Global Warming Would be Good for You
• Global Warming Primer (PDF)
• Global Warming: An Official Pseudoscience
• Sun's Output Increasing in Possible Trend Fueling Global Warming
• Fiddler On The Roof
• Debating Global Warming
• Climate Resistance

Antarctic Temperature Trend 1982-2004:


This map (left) shows key areas of Antarctica, including the vast East Antarctic ice sheet. The image on the right shows which areas of the continent's ice are thickening (coloured yellow and red) and thinning (coloured blue). © (Left)British Antarctic Survey, (Right)Science

[steelyourfaith]

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[WOSG]

Apples v oranges. The evolutionary science debate has been going on for more than a century and a half, lots of questions and there is genuine scientific consensus on the facts such as: species have come and gone, one species can be descended from another, if species cant adapt they go extinct, etc.

But the global warming science is full of holes, it is barely started and before the science is fully known, the alarmists want to shut down debate. That is a sure sign of bad science if not a hoax.

[Poptech]

NO 'Consensus' on "Man-Made" Global Warming