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Indicted in beating of gay couple (charged with a first-degree hate crime)
NJ.com ^ | 11/03/07 | MICHAELANGELO CONTE

Posted on 11/04/2007 4:22:57 PM PST by Libloather

Indicted in beating of gay couple
Saturday, November 03, 2007
By MICHAELANGELO CONTE
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

UNION CITY - Two former employees of a Burger King on Bergenline Avenue have been indicted on hate crime charges in connection with the vicious beating of a same-sex couple outside the restaurant earlier this year, officials said yesterday.

Angel Caraballo, 28, of Duncan Avenue, and Christopher Soto of Prospect Street, both of Jersey City, were charged with aggravated assault and a first-degree hate crime in connection with the July 22 beating, officials said. The hate crime offense carries a possible sentence of 10 to 20 years in prison.

The two victims, Union City men in their early 40s, were in the Burger King, on the 3500 block of Bergenline, when they asked someone behind the counter for a refund for an item that was not available, officials said.

One employee allegedly asked the other who was asking for the refund and he replied with a derogatory term for a homosexual, according to a news release issued by the gay rights advocacy group Garden State Equality.

The couple left the restaurant, but a group of Burger King employees followed them outside, where "they beat them mercilessly," while repeating anti-gay slurs, the news release says.

"Even in New Jersey, arguably the most progressive state in the country, a state we call the state that doesn't hate, too many lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people live in fear," said Steven Goldstein, chairman of Garden State Equality.

The victims are represented by Nutley lawyer James F. Fine and River Edge lawyer Joseph Donahue. Burger King officials could not immediately be reached for comment last night, nor could the defendants' attorneys.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: crime; firstdegree; gay; hate
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...a first-degree hate crime...

What are the different degrees of hate crimes? Anyone?

...the state that doesn't hate...

That has ZERO truth to it.

1 posted on 11/04/2007 4:23:01 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

I’ve read that the Romans used hate crimes to persecute Christians. Sorry no source.


2 posted on 11/04/2007 4:26:21 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: Libloather
Simple fact...you don't assault an individual regardless of his/her gender,race,creed,"sexual orientation",etc.Yes,charge those responsible for the assault with whatever degree of assault (depending,largely,on the extent of the injuries suffered).

But "hate crime"? Barbra Streisand!!!!

3 posted on 11/04/2007 4:27:22 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: Libloather

All beatings should be treated equally. What the heck difference does it make if they are gay or straight?


4 posted on 11/04/2007 4:27:42 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Libloather

Throw them in jail for life. I don’t care if it’s a hate crime they are charged with or simple A&B. Put them in jail, and throw away the key.


5 posted on 11/04/2007 4:30:05 PM PST by Brilliant
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Throw them in jail for life.

Life? C'mon! Although the piece doesn't specify the extent of the injuries suffered one can assume,I think,that the victims were never at death's doorstep or close to it.

IMO...if you're talking bloody noses...each perp should get a year's probation.Broken bones.....3 months in the slammer.Long hospital stay...at least a couple of years in the slammer.More serious injuries....5,10 or more years.If either victim dies....fry them.

6 posted on 11/04/2007 4:38:33 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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...you don't assault an individual regardless of his/her gender, race, creed, "sexual orientation", etc.

I'm jazzed about all that but what is a third degree hate crime? Kicking your dog?

7 posted on 11/04/2007 4:41:25 PM PST by Libloather (Hillary donors find their way to the cover of Time. And the very next day they're doing it...)
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Hate crimes come in degree’s?

Interesting to see that a “first degree hate crime” carries with it a stiffer penalty than fag crimes such as abduction of male children, buggery of male children, prostitution of malechildren.
note that these are fag crimes. “Straight” Pedophiles exploit female children.

When a society accepts abnormal, deviant sexual behavior as “normal”, and those that speak out against such sick, perverted, disgusting behavior of those who belong to groups such as the man boy love association are charged with “hate crimes”, when people pleading for moral decency are labeled as “haters”, you know this society has decayed to the point of no return


8 posted on 11/04/2007 4:42:28 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: driftdiver

I was thinking the other that our detractors must be using the Fall of the Roman Empire as their guide in destroying America.


9 posted on 11/04/2007 4:45:51 PM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: Libloather
I'm jazzed about all that but what is a third degree hate crime? Kicking your dog?

Who cares? I just want to know if a "hate crime" has ever been challenged in the Federal courts and,if so,how far did the case get and exactly how did the decision read?

10 posted on 11/04/2007 4:46:26 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: Brilliant
"Throw them in jail for life. I don’t care if it’s a hate crime they are charged with or simple A&B. Put them in jail, and throw away the key."

All assaults are a result of someone not liking someone else for one reason or another. Why does beating up a fag vs beating up someone who looked at you the wrong way deserve a a stiffer penalty?

11 posted on 11/04/2007 4:47:48 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Libloather

Is there such a thing as a love crime?


12 posted on 11/04/2007 4:50:49 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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"Is there such a thing as a love crime?"

Gay democrats are working on a bill to outlaw heterosexual marriages and raising children in that type of environment illegal, so the answer to that may soon be yes.

13 posted on 11/04/2007 4:56:36 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Gay State Conservative
indeed! the posting doesn’t mention whether or not they were arrested for assault at the time of the incident and if not, why not.
14 posted on 11/04/2007 5:00:05 PM PST by elpadre
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To: Brilliant
I don’t care if it’s a hate crime they are charged with or simple A&B. Put them in jail, and throw away the key.

In your previous life, you was known as the "Hangin' Dude", weren't ya?

A&B does not = a life sentence.

Maybe if you do it every week or something, but not this case.

Maybe one would feel like that if one was on the dark side?

Why would you put a life sentence on the perp's for this incident?

Just a thought.

15 posted on 11/04/2007 5:02:35 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You’re missing the point here. some people alawys hit these threads with “execute ‘em all” attitudes and it doesn’t matter what for. “Just execute all the convicts” is pretty common too. Of course when someone with that attitude is arrested they magically morph into civil libertarians.


16 posted on 11/04/2007 5:07:33 PM PST by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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To: Nathan Zachary
All this is confusing... A guy is out in a bar & straight and a Gay guy comes on to him & touches him. The straight guy gets mad & hits him ..What is the charge now? Same as a gay hate crime? Is the gay charged with touching the straight guy or do both get hauled off to jail?

As for Garden Stare Equality Group calling NJ the state that doesn't hate...well I live here & I sure hate that group. All they do is push their gay agenda on schools.

17 posted on 11/04/2007 5:09:23 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( Its NOT for the good of the children! Its BS along with bending over for Muslim's demands)
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To: Libloather

First, prove they were happy, then, argue it was an anti-gay crime.


18 posted on 11/04/2007 5:15:40 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I am a proud anti-invasion racist!)
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To: Libloather

There is more to this story than is published here.

I’ve seen surly fast food employees, but I’ve never heard of them leaving their posts just to beat the crap out of a customer.

I can’t say what it is, but this is not the complete story.


19 posted on 11/04/2007 5:19:30 PM PST by I_Like_Spam
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To: Libloather
If the perps would have been black or gay, the MSM would be silent....very little coming from the MSM about the race killings in Wichita and Knoxville.
20 posted on 11/04/2007 5:21:23 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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