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As Venezuela congress mulls constitutional reforms, some say rights threatened
International Herald Tribune ^ | Oct 16, 2007

Posted on 11/01/2007 7:41:41 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

CARACAS, Venezuela: President Hugo Chavez could be re-elected indefinitely and detain citizens without charges during national emergencies under constitutional reforms .... to be put to a popular vote in December.

Chavez argues the changes are necessary so his government can steer Venezuela toward socialism. But Human Rights Watch strongly criticized some of the changes, saying they violate international law by allowing the suspension of rights to due process during a state of emergency.

"This amendment, if approved, would allow President Chavez to invoke a state of emergency to justify suspending certain rights that are untouchable under international law," said Jose Miguel Vivanco, at the New York-based Human Rights Watch...

Other reforms would give the government total control over the Central Bank, create new types of property to be managed by cooperatives, extend presidential terms from six to seven years and allow Chavez to run again in 2012...Chavez ... vehemently denies seeking indefinite power...Among other changes, the reforms also would enshrine socialist concepts in the constitution, reduce from 18 to 16 the minimum voting age and increase from 20 percent to 30 percent the number of voters' signatures required to trigger a presidential recall vote.

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: socialism; venezuela
The U.S. media is reporting NONE of this. Chavez is moving forward with his plans to turn Venezuela into a totalitarian, socialist state, and the MSM here ignores the entire process. Oh, and no recognition of patents and copyrights, just like China. License to steal. The proposed Constitution states that the government will not recognize nor protect intellectual property in scientific, literary or artistic works, and overturns the protection enshrined in the present Constitution.
1 posted on 11/01/2007 7:41:43 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

Simon Bolivar wept.


2 posted on 11/01/2007 7:42:33 AM PDT by sono (Hillary's Campaign Theme Song? Donovan, "Season of The Witch")
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To: 3AngelaD
As Venezuela congress mulls constitutional reforms, some say rights threatened

No Kidding.


3 posted on 11/01/2007 7:44:55 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: darkwing104

I don’t get the write the headlines. But I do find it interesting that the IHT reports this, in Europe, but no one reports it here.


4 posted on 11/01/2007 7:46:26 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

“to justify suspending certain rights that are untouchable under international law,” said Jose Miguel Vivanco, at the New York-based Human Rights Watch...”

...and this is why the Venezolanos need to take back control of their own country, reassert their own constitutional rights and/or die trying. Too many talk tough, but aren’t willing to pledge their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor in defense of the Bolivarian ideals.

Colegio Internacional de Caracas, Class of ‘75


5 posted on 11/01/2007 7:46:37 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: JackRyanCIA; darkwing104

The NY Times owns the IHT. Hence the Marxist cover-up headline. The NY Times reports the absolute minimum about all this, couching the horror in coy, deceitful terms.


7 posted on 11/01/2007 7:51:10 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: 3AngelaD
This idiot could start WWIII in south america, and they’re worried about “gay rights” ?????

...talk about “hosed in the head”....

8 posted on 11/01/2007 7:51:31 AM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: 3AngelaD

Bottom line, Chavez is doing what DICTATORS do.


9 posted on 11/01/2007 7:51:57 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Staying home or voting 3rd Party, Elects Hillary!)
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To: 3AngelaD
Chavez argues the changes are necessary so his government can steer Venezuela toward socialism.

He's absolutely right. A free people won't accept his totalitarian socialism. He needs the ability to murder his opponents, because the only way that type of government can work is through absolute control via fear.

10 posted on 11/01/2007 7:53:58 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: 3AngelaD

Plebescites are a common mechanism for dictators to ratify their tyranny. Napoleon and Hitler are just two examples. They are easy to manipulate and give the illusion of legitimacy.


11 posted on 11/01/2007 7:55:54 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: 3AngelaD

HEY HEY!!! Jimmy Cartuh said hugo is ok..so that is ok with me..besides..who needs rights anyway../sarc


12 posted on 11/01/2007 7:57:50 AM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: 3AngelaD

Memo to Venezuala - you had a chance to kill Hugo but you blew it.


13 posted on 11/01/2007 8:15:51 AM PDT by MoMagic
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To: 3AngelaD

We’re watching a dictator take over a country who we have a strategic need to trade with.

Nice.


14 posted on 11/01/2007 8:42:38 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Chavez argues the changes are necessary so his government can steer Venezuela toward socialism.

The final paragraph of Joshua Muravchik's Heaven on Earth: The Rise and Fall of Socialism:

By no means all socialists were killers or amoral. Many were sincere humanitarians; mostly these were the adherents of democratic socialism. But democratic socialism turned out to be a contradiction in terms, for where socialists proceeded democratically, the found themselves on a trajectory that took them further and further from socialism. Long before Lenin, socialist thinkers had anticipated the problem. The imaginary utopias of Plato, Moore, Campanella and Edward Bellamy, whose 1887 novel, Looking Backward, was the most popular socialist book in American history, all relied on coercion, as did the plans of The Conspiracy of Equals. Only once did democratic socialists manage to create socialism. That was the kibbutz. And after they had experienced it, they chose democratically to abolish it.

15 posted on 11/01/2007 9:51:36 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions

The dictatorship of the proletariat. What a concept!


16 posted on 11/01/2007 1:39:41 PM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: cll

The truth about Venezuela.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S96o6RfiRIk

Isn’t Socialism great?


17 posted on 11/03/2007 1:48:52 AM PDT by Doofy
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