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To: Marine_Uncle; Ben Hecks; BOBTHENAILER
Was out at Frey's the other day picking thru their Book buys...found "Germs ..by Judith Miller and others...

Got to Crack the cover before the week is over....

Germs: Biological Weapons and America's Secret War (Paperback)
by Judith Miller (Author), William Broad (Author), Stephen Engelberg (Author)
"IT was noon on Sunday, September 9, 1984..." (more)


15 posted on 10/29/2007 6:13:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Whadha trying to do... scare me into having a Coors Extra Gold Lager to sooth my nerves...


16 posted on 10/29/2007 7:04:04 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe it would be better if you opened the cover instead of cracking it. Never know for sure what the hell might start leaking out.


17 posted on 10/29/2007 7:05:46 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; NordP
Finished. VERY SCARY read. Makes me wonder if something like this is what Zawahiri alluded to when AQ postponed NY subway bombings "for something much bigger".

Let me know how the Miller book is......

20 posted on 10/29/2007 7:15:13 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

After reading the FR article about Saddam’s love of baby wipes, and while riding in my truck wiping my hands with baby wipes after shopping(!) - I was thinking, maybe there WAS A REAL GOOD REASON why Saddam was a germophobe.

I’m serious. We were snooping around everywhere and coming back to him I’m sure with more questions. “What are these files about? We found them in Building 612 of the Darupa Facility?”


26 posted on 10/29/2007 10:07:27 PM PDT by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I also found a copy of GERMS by Judith Miller when I was trying to figure out what I had seen at Iowa State University in the late part of 1990.

What I saw were two sores that looked like anthrax, except that they dripped and dripped profusely. According to the literature, anthrax is a dry lesion. So was what I saw anthrax or not?

The sores were black in the middle like burned brownies and surrounded by crazy concentric rings, the outermost ring was a bruise. And it did not hurt. That was the craziest thing. If it only hurt when you looked at it, then that was psychosomatic.

If you have the paperback edition, turn to page 315-316. This is a quote from one of the postal workers named Margano. He had stuck his arm into a letter canceling machine trying to get the electronic eye cleared....it was covered in anthrax spores and was not detecting the letters. Margano broke the skin on his arm and contracted cutaneous anthrax right there.

The quote says that his sore drip, drip, drip like a faucet.

That is exactly what the sores I saw at ISU did. The man’s sore ran so much he was constantly wiping his chin while sitting there in the waiting room of the student health center. The woman’s (his wife who sat across the table from me in class) had a sore on her arm and she actually got some drainage on a page of one of MY books.

After I read GERMS, it dawned on me that all of the literature was writing before 9-11. The anthrax that was mailed was still anthrax, but a different kind. This kind dripped. But I needed more than just Margano to say to any authority that the dripping was caused by the anthrax and not just a secondary contaminant.

If you read the CDC report on the baby (7 mo. old) at ABC, his sore was wet. And then another postal worker that another Freeper help me contact, O’Donnell or O’Connell, had a badly dripping sore and his physician actually cut in out of his neck.

Then the scientists came out with the genetic code of the stuff that was mailed.....and the stuff that was mailed is all identical....and they came up with a mutation, an inverstion on one of the plasmids. Like a zipper put in upside down.

The mailed anthrax is actually a “mixture” of genotype 62 and this genotype 62 mutation. So regular and mutated all mixed together. There does not seem to be some separation or migration into adaptable and non-adaptable as we would think would happen.

The first victim, Bob Stevens, is the index sample. They took what had been ravaging his body and tested it. The mixture was there. One kind was not better at anything than the other. A very un-expected event.

Then they plated out and streaked the sample onto sheep's blood agar and looked at individual colonies. To their surprise, you could see a difference. One kind had a round colony and the other had a fluted edge, like Mom would crimp the edge of an apple pie, a wavy edge.

This is my theory on the wavy edge. If you look at mud flows down an incline, you will see puddling where the water and mud were more water than mud.

I say this fluted edge is the result of this one kind (the mutated one) having produced an extra metabolic water and a mud flow of excess water and bacteria cascade down the side of the colony.

The extra metabolic water makes this anthrax wet or dripping. This is the same stuff.

Glad you got that book.

Battle Axe

77 posted on 11/04/2007 6:55:51 AM PST by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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