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MOB WANTED TO WHACK RUDY GIULIANI
New York Post ^ | MURRAY WEISS, PATRICK GALLAHUE and ALEX GINSBERG

Posted on 10/25/2007 3:32:25 AM PDT by americanflyer1234

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To: americanflyer1234

Are you new or a retread?


61 posted on 10/25/2007 8:54:12 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Guns up Red Raiders!)
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To: americanflyer1234
"Mob Wanted to Whack Rudy Giuliani"

Oh, well I guess I'll vote for him now.

Good grief.


62 posted on 10/25/2007 8:56:41 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; indylindy

Let’s not forget that the real reason Rooty was the US Attorney in Southern NY — it was a demotion from his post as Assistant Attorney General.


63 posted on 10/25/2007 8:59:18 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Let’s not forget that the real reason Rooty was the US Attorney in Southern NY — it was a demotion from his post as Assistant Attorney General.

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Heh. No kidding?

64 posted on 10/25/2007 9:00:49 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: americanflyer1234; AnAmericanMother
There is no evidence Giuliani has lied.

Nope, Rooty Toot doesn't lie. He's a liberal through and through who had adopted a Clintonesque-style of developing his own definitions for words and terms like "strict constructionist" and then making promises based on definitions he doesn't bother to share with the public.

65 posted on 10/25/2007 9:01:52 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: trisham

I certainly wasn’t a promotion.


66 posted on 10/25/2007 9:02:22 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: All

Keeping somewhat in line with this, would it be wrong for me to say I wanted the finale for the Sopranos to end with all of them getting gunned down?

I dislike mobsters that much.


67 posted on 10/25/2007 9:06:46 AM PDT by wastedyears (A cosmic castaway)
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To: americanflyer1234

Even Lizzie Borden wants to whack Guilani.


68 posted on 10/25/2007 9:08:11 AM PDT by exit82 (I believe Juanita--Hillary enabled Juanita's rapist.)
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To: americanflyer1234
the mob bosses decided by a razor-thin 3-to-2 margin not to try to whack the future mayor

Can we get a recount?

/jk

69 posted on 10/25/2007 9:11:13 AM PDT by Pistolshot
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To: AnAmericanMother

“if you can’t tell the difference between a lie, a betrayal of trust, and a broken campaign promise”

I give up, what is the difference?


70 posted on 10/25/2007 9:16:43 AM PDT by americanflyer1234
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To: americanflyer1234
A lie is a statement of fact that was false and known to be false at the time it was made. This is analogous to the legal definition of fraud.

A betrayal of trust is another term for oathbreaking. A person takes a promise before God to do a particular act in the future, then breaks it. That's a step more culpable than a campaign promise, which is usually not entirely a statement of fact but depends upon future events, and is not a solemn vow.

Campaign promises should not be broken, of course, but that is a degree less culpable than breaking an oath, which is several degrees less culpable than a deliberate lie.

Giuliani has shown his culpability in both of the last two categories. So did Bill Clinton, and if folks had been less angry at G.H.W. Bush and had considered the difference between breaking a campaign promise, breaking an oath, and deliberately lying and committing fraud, things might have turned out quite differently.

71 posted on 10/25/2007 9:23:44 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

The SOLUTION is to elect a real conservative with a proven track record. That way we don’t have to spend four years crossing our fingers and wondering every time an important issue comes up if this is when it’s all going to collapse.


72 posted on 10/25/2007 9:31:49 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
EXACTLY my point. As I noted a few posts back, "Campaign promises aren't worth much if they haven't been backed up by consistent actions that support the promise."

Actually, they're not worth a pitcher of warm spit, to mis-quote John Nance Gardner.

73 posted on 10/25/2007 9:36:37 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: americanflyer1234

Where the hell do they get these nicknames?


74 posted on 10/25/2007 9:43:31 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Brilliant

They had to agree to take out a high profile government official because all the families would be feeling the heat as a consenquence if they did.

The modern mob is different from the Mafia of the early 1900s. Back then they never deliberately took out anyone unless they were involved personally in criminal activities, and never touched government officials unless they had been on the take and then ratted them out.


75 posted on 10/25/2007 9:48:39 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Back in 1980, GHWB was running around calling Reagan’s proposed tax cuts “Voodoo Economics.” Then he spent eight years as VP going along with Reaganomics and presumably seeing how well it worked.

So, when he said, “Read my lips: No new taxes,” a lot of us thought that he had learned from Reagan and that we could trust him. But as soon as he got the job, he reverted back to his liberal ways and gave us a tax cut.

I’m not getting burned like that again. In 1988 I had a fair amount of trust for Bush, but I don’t trust Rooty one damn bit!


76 posted on 10/25/2007 9:53:42 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

“I’m not getting burned like that again.”

That’s all well and good. But why do I still think that someone like Fred Thompson or Huckabee will end up betraying your trust?

Huckabee is off the reservation on immigration, and Thompson has been a fierce foe of the tort reform. He is very much a lawyer, and has lobbied for Planned Parenthood.

When you find the perfect candidate, please tell me who it is.


77 posted on 10/25/2007 9:57:31 AM PDT by americanflyer1234
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To: americanflyer1234

I don’t see Duncan Hunter who I would prefer gaining any ground.

Rooty and Romney are unacceptable.

So, I think it will have to be either Thompson or Huckabee and that conservatives will have to impress upon them the reality that there will be severe consequences for betrayal (i.e. we would support a different nominee in 2012).


78 posted on 10/25/2007 10:01:33 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: indylindy

IMO, Fox has been using it to create sympathy and awe for Rudy (but mostly to deflect from his long association with Kerik and his mob ties). Rudy also brought it up during his October 16th Hannity “interview”, so I don’t believe it is resurfacing just because of the DeVecchio trial. (Begins just before the 8 minute marker)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poa8rXtonLM

I think it is part of “damage control.”


79 posted on 10/25/2007 10:58:08 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: americanflyer1234; indylindy

It is old news. The only thing that is “new” is the FBI records themselves. Rudy has been using this to gain support during interviews and speeches on the campaign trail.

Funny thing, though. According to the FBI files, they did NOT put out a hit on him. In Rudy’s version, they did.


80 posted on 10/25/2007 11:00:50 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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