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To: flaglady47

Do you want those results on your hands? Then don’t vote for Rudy if he ends up being the Pub candidate, and you will get just exactly what you claim you don’t want.
***That’s the big thing here, isn’t it? IF. IF rudy becomes the nominee. Should that be the case, it’s just me in that voting booth. For the republican party not to know the consequences of this is their problem.

I didn’t bother reading the rest of your post because it was more of the same consequences of the hypothetical.

If you want me to answer your hypotheticals, then you need to answer mine first.

Rudy splits the base.

I would expect rudy supporters to answer the false dilemma because there have certainly been enough of them asking the false dilemma of “who would you vote for, Hildebeast or Rudy”, and your post is a new form of sendup of the same false dilemma. If you don’t like answering false dilemmas, don’t ask them, and get yer buddies to stop asking them. In particular, since this is a socon forum (not even a GOP forum), it is very impolite to ask double-bind questions, expecially this early in the race.

Would you care to answer the false dilemma? Since team rudy is so fond of its own false dilemma, after all.

My contention: If rudy gets the nomination, he splits the base, possibly splits the republican party, and loses the election.

Your contention: If Hunter gets it, he wins the base and loses the election.

Hypothetical to answer your hypothetical. Both sides losing to Hillary.
Side A: The solib republican splits the base. The MSM turns on him the moment he is nominated. Hillary wins. Republican party is split.
Side B: The socon republican wins the nomination, loses to hildebeast in a tough fight. Republicans are united against the hillary presidency.

Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?

Win-Win false dilemma:
Side A: Solib wins presidency by ignoring the socon base and permanently splitting the republican party.
Side B: SoCon wins presidency by (obviously) relying on the socon base.

Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?


470 posted on 10/21/2007 8:12:31 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
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To: Kevmo
Rudy splits the base.

No. Stubbornness and stupidity will split the base if it happens. There are several possible winners of the nomination process, and Republican voters will decide who they want. Making demands now on the electorate that if a majority doesn't cowtow to your demands or you'll take your football and go home is childish.

474 posted on 10/21/2007 8:20:33 PM PDT by narby
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To: Kevmo

“Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?

Win-Win false dilemma:
Side A: Solib wins presidency by ignoring the socon base and permanently splitting the republican party.
Side B: SoCon wins presidency by (obviously) relying on the socon base.

Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?”

It’s not a debate about parties, sides, candidates. It’s how many more babies will die if Hillary and/or the Dems win the Presidency. A whole bunch. You are igoring the elephant in the room. And that elephant is more dead babies if the Dems win the election.


476 posted on 10/21/2007 8:23:28 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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