Posted on 10/16/2007 9:12:20 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
This was very early on with Fred Thompson, and at that point that's why Dobson used the qualifier "think."
I don't "think" he's a Christian does not mean, "He is not a Christian."
It means "I don't think that's true." or "I don't think it's a full moon tonight." or "I don't think dogs really eat cats."
It is a word of uncertainty. That is why he follows up with the expression, "at least that's my IMPRESSION."
Those who insist on Giulian will lead to the election of Hillary.
To vote for Giuliani would cause me to violate God's commandments.
This is why I have been saying, pick a Republican for President and push Hillary out of politics. After the election, tell the Republican party that if they don’t change within the first year, a third party will be developed and there will be three years to formulate it into something the American people can support. Congress is useless today and needs to be brought back to being the peoples representatives or they will be forced out of office.
Dobson knew exactly what he was doing when he said that. If his priority was the truth he would have:
a) done some research or
b)asked to meet with Fred Thompson to discuss his faith
_before_ opening his mouth.
It’s time conservatives reject the GOP/RNC as an entity.
Conservatives must take a stand and support only candidates that embody and vote with conservative values. We can no longer sweep-under-the-rug the policies and positions of anyone who carries an (R) next to their name — See 6 years of George Bush and a Republican Congress.
We must have faith and the strength of conviction that even if things turn against us in the short term - we will succeed in the long-run.
So, forget polls, forget conventional wisdom, forget the MSM hacks - the base must rally to its core principles or else it will be 4 more years of the same.
Nope. It was early on. It was a conversation.
It would be no different than your saying in a conversation with me, “I don’t think Rudy is a conservative.”
I’d have to agree with you. :>)
That is a disturbing thought - Stalinesque even.
George Washington on the dangers of political parties:
[While speaking on the subject -- The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish Government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established Government.]
"All obstructions to the execution of the Laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency. They [political parties] serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation, the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels, and modified by mutual interests.
"However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people, and to usurp for themselves the reins of government; destroying afterwards the very engines, which have lifted them to unjust dominion."
Washington went on to say,
"The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty."
How does the GOP think it can discipline those they’ve already kicked to the curb?
So that means what? To be a true conservative party we must emulate the people whose philosophy you claim to object to?
I can not understand that logic.
And if you will say that the party is a thing to have a political rigidity then be prepared to also be purged by those that you seek to purge - as is the way of ideological warfare in political parties - per Washington's warning above.
“The Dems will remain an extremely disciplined and united machine. Unlike us, they know what their goals are....”
Their goals are money and power. The same as the current majority of GOP standard bearers.
We must remember and recognize that our goal is smaller government, less government intervention, more personal freedom and a secure homeland according to the dictates of the US Constitution.
For a true conservative it’s not about Party and Power. It’s about life, liberty and the pursuit of happness
Well said - Here! Here!
I don’t hear a single Democrat claiming one of their major candidates doesn’t qualify as a “Christian.” I don’t see any former Democratic Senators completely ruling out endorsing any Democrats this cycle. I don’t see any Democrats accusing their leadership of being part of a 9-11 cover-up conspiracy.
When people do these ridiculous things, they need to be completely cut off from the money, the support and the brand name of the GOP.
Virtually nothing has been done to castigate these people for their disrespect for core party beliefs. When the party fails to punish disloyalty, it rewards this type of behavior. .... But Reverend Dobson ... had to announce that he felt Fred Thompson didn’t even qualify as a Christian.
***Umm, isn’t that part of Dobson’s Core Beliefs? Also, he’s not a Reverend. When the GOP core beliefs collide with my Christian core beliefs, the GOP beliefs are tossed.
“a third party will be developed”
I honestly think that would be great. Get the social conservatives (i.e. American Taliban) out and let the party be filled with fiscal conservative and social moderates. A party with that platform would blow the rest of the field away, because it is what most Americans want. Thus, fulfilling the defintion of a republic. The unholy alliance between the extreme religios and the fiscal branch of the party needs to end.
Amen. Pushing people out of the Republican party because someone decides they’re not “true conservatives” is like a circle of wolves hungrily eyeing each other and devouring themselves one by one.
Good points Wilco....I agree.
Unfortunately there are too many RINOs in the party....they are Republicans but not Conservatives
You know the GOP is toast when they say “we cant let Hillary win” when the GOP runs an equally-socialist candidate. No way will I vote for Giuliani or other liberal RINOs just to merely keep Hillary from the White House....thats the death of the GOP if we must vote for someone because “Hillary will win” if we do not
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