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Turkey’s Top General: "The US Shot Itself in the Foot"
http://www.thememriblog.org/turkey/blog_personal/en/3225.htm ^

Posted on 10/15/2007 5:06:41 PM PDT by cool2007

The US shot itself in the foot, commented the Chief of General Staff General Yaşar Büyükanıt after a US congressional vote branding the killing of Armenians in 1915-17 as genocide, Milliyet reported yesterday. In an interview with the daily, Büyükanıt said if the non-binding resolution that passed in a House committee last week was to be adopted in the House too, Turkish-US military ties would “never be the same again.”

The general expressed the opinion that world parliaments had no business in judging history. He said, “The US is a very important ally of ours, but an ally does not act like this.”

This week, General Buyukanit will visit Israel.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; armenia; armeniangenocide; armenians; nancypelosi; pelosi; turkey
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To: G8 Diplomat; cookcounty; sionnsar; go-ken-go; Cyber Liberty; Navy Patriot
I wasn't aware we'd already officially condemned the genocide. That makes it rather obvious that the Dems have ulterior motives for bringing the issue up again—especially at the current time.
41 posted on 10/15/2007 5:36:43 PM PDT by sourcery (Referring a "social conservative" to the Ninth Amendment is like showing the Cross to Dracula.)
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To: cool2007
Pelosi is agitating against the US in Iraq again, since her headchoppers are being killed left and right.
42 posted on 10/15/2007 5:36:45 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: RKV

Blame Nancy Pelosi. He is responding to her treason. Where is the outrage? Are we all “Joe Six Pack” as Bill Clinton maintains?


43 posted on 10/15/2007 5:36:55 PM PDT by paguch
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To: cool2007

United States - House of Representatives
April 9, 1975

To designate April 24, 1975, as “National Day of Remembrance of Man’s Inhumanity to Man”.

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That April 24, 1975, is hereby designated as “National Day of Remembrance of Man’s Inhumanity to Man”, and the President of the United States is authorized and requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day as a day of remembrance for all the victims of genocide, especially those of Armenian ancestry who succumbed to the genocide perpetrated in 1915, and in whose memory this date is commemorated by all Armenians and their friends throughout the world.

Passed the House of Representatives April 8, 1975.
Attest: W. Pat Jennings, Clerk.
United States - House of Representatives
September 12, 1984

To designate April 24, 1985, as “National Day of Remembrance of Man’s Inhumanity to Man”.

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That April 24, 1985, is hereby designated as “National Day of Remembrance of Man’s Inhumanity to Man”, and the President of the United States is authorized and requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day as a day of remembrance for all the victims of genocide, especially the one and one-half million people of Armenian ancestry who were the victims of the genocide perpetrated in Turkey between 1915 and 1923, and in whose memory this date is commemorated by all Armenians and their friends throughout the world.

Passed the House of Representatives September 10, 1984.
Attest: Benjamin J. Guthrie, Clerk.


44 posted on 10/15/2007 5:37:20 PM PDT by camerakid400
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To: Jim Noble

So you think it’s a bunch of crap that 70% of our war effort supplies enter Iraq through Turkey? Oh really?

I seriously doubt our troops do.

If Turkey is nothing more than another Islamic state, why is it that they are good trading partners with Israel, and seem to have no qualms about contributing in a positive manner to Israel’s economy?


45 posted on 10/15/2007 5:38:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: cool2007
I beg the good General's pardon, but it is more like - THE DEMOCRATS SHOT AMERICA IN THE HEART!
46 posted on 10/15/2007 5:38:58 PM PDT by NordP (Such tough choices ahead, I'm now a "middle of the road" voter--somewhere between RUSH & Savage ;-))
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To: sourcery

Really? Is that the only consideration here?

Boy, that’s good to know since our military’s supply lines go through Turkey, and there is absolutely no one left alive in Turkey responsible for anything that happened in WWI. However, since we have about 120,000 active duty personnel in the region, and since the US seems to pick up the historical check for any moron with a theory about who owes whom,

I guess that will be OK seeing our troops run out of ammo in the middle of a firefight. Al Qaeda is on the ropes there, so this will be perfect timing on our part, since the very best thing to do historically is make war on the US. We’ll bomb you back to the stone age, and then rebuild you better than we have it stateside.

And since we have a moral obligation to take on the actions of people long since dead, I suppose you’ll be the one handing your property over to some unnamed African American representative in compensation for something you had absolutely NOTHING to do with over 200 years ago.

The Jews will also be suing the Egyptians, and the Spaniards the Muslims, and so on and so on.

It’s your precise point of view that helped usher in WWI in the first place. Entangling alliances and bad nationalism. The irony is actually perfect.


47 posted on 10/15/2007 5:39:37 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: sourcery
As was noted above, how many times are we required to say that?

Plus, the Ottoman Empire did the dirty deed. That empire consisted of a fair number of provinces which are now reconfigured as various states.

Which state do we condemn? Or, do we condemn all of them? Who should be punished? How should they be punished?

After WWI it was determined that the Ottoman Empire should be destroyed, carved up into smaller states, then the people who lived there punished through the imposition of various dictatorships.

What more should be done?

48 posted on 10/15/2007 5:41:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Brilliant

More like Nancy Pelosi shot us in the BACK.

There. Fixed it for ya.


49 posted on 10/15/2007 5:41:50 PM PDT by Nik Naym (If Republicans are your problem, Democrats aren't the answer!)
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To: cool2007

The Democrats in the United States congress as well as more than a few Republicans are just plain treasonous! There is no other word to describe what they are doing,, how they are talking and acting!


50 posted on 10/15/2007 5:41:57 PM PDT by freemike
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To: sourcery
All is forgiven.

The Rats are tricky, NEVER give any credibility to what they SAY.

51 posted on 10/15/2007 5:42:52 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (The hyphen American with the loudest whine gets the grease.)
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To: sionnsar

How many times? Is once enough? Twice? Ten? A hundred? A million? A new daily resolution into perpetuity?

Congress doesn't need to come out and officially declare everything that ever happened in history as good or bad. I think people are smart enough to know that genocide is evil (except for the liberals who advocate abortion). All hail, we are the 110th Congress. Fear us, for we hath judgeth history.

Ok, on a serious note, I don't think condemning the genocide in Congress is a bad idea, but the timing is extremely bad. Screwing over previously good relations in a time of war is NOT a good idea.
52 posted on 10/15/2007 5:43:04 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Star Wars teaches us a foreboding lesson--evil emperors start out as Senators)
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To: muawiyah
The Ottoman government was as much a Syrian, Azerbaijani, Iraqi, Kuwaiti, Saudi, Egyptian, Tunisian, Lebanese government as it was an Anatolian government.

Yes and no. While all those places and peoples had their influence, they were the dominate forces of the Empire.

But you are correct. The British and French (mostly) created the "Peace to End All Peace" (A book I could not finish, but with a very appropriate title), in the area.

That's what happens when you let foreign ministry types craft the terms of ending a war, instead of the "Admiralties" and "War Departments". Our own State Department being a prime example of such an effect.

53 posted on 10/15/2007 5:43:54 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: sourcery

I highly doubt any of the current Turks did anything to the Armenians 80 years ago. This “resolution” is nothing but an attempt to piss off an ally.


54 posted on 10/15/2007 5:44:14 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: El Gato
Thanks. I’m suspecting there may have been a hiatus during that period though. Heh heh heh...
55 posted on 10/15/2007 5:46:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: sourcery

WWI, that was like 90 years ago. What’s the purpose of bringing this up now? Why didn’t earlier congresses label this act as genocide? How does acknowledging the genocide change the results? More grandstanding from the stupid democrats.


56 posted on 10/15/2007 5:46:40 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: freemike
The Democrats in the United States congress as well as more than a few Republicans are just plain treasonous! There is no other word to describe what they are doing,, how they are talking and acting!

I totally agree. An absolute new low. They'll go further, I suspect.

57 posted on 10/15/2007 5:48:00 PM PDT by gunservative
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To: paguch
Are we all “Joe Six Pack” as Bill Clinton maintains?

Yea, we are, even those of us who don't care for cervesa. So were the members of the Sons of Liberty and similar groups. They, like us, were also heavily armed. But they were better organized.

58 posted on 10/15/2007 5:48:11 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: sourcery

I wasn't aware we'd already officially condemned the genocide.

Uh, no one said we did. Don't you think that if Congress REALLY wanted to they would have done so earlier? Funny, after all the cut and run bills failed the Dems bring this up and piss off our allies. It's their next attempt to screw things over in Iraq for us.

59 posted on 10/15/2007 5:49:08 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Star Wars teaches us a foreboding lesson--evil emperors start out as Senators)
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To: sourcery

The US government has no business condemning an ally goverment over issues that happened 80+ years ago under the leadership of people who are long dead. This was a subversive move by a DEMOCRAT house panel, not the full house, to cripple US/Turkey relations with regard to the WOT.


60 posted on 10/15/2007 5:50:38 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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