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Tancredo Criticizes Bush Decision to Appeal Illegal Alien Murder Case
Congressional Web Site ^ | Oct. 9, '07 | Press Release

Posted on 10/11/2007 12:53:56 PM PDT by T.L.Sink

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To: T.L.Sink

Amen!


41 posted on 10/12/2007 5:02:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: wideawake

>>Medellin needs to be retried with consular assistance.<<

As others have pointed out, he was not denied consular assistance — he just did not request it.

>>Nothing in a retrial would prevent him from being convicted and executed.<<

Easy for you to say. Tell that to the families of the victims. In retrials, witnesses and evidence sometimes are not available.


42 posted on 10/12/2007 5:03:06 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: T.L.Sink
"in an age of international terrorism he’s failed to secure our borders - not to mention the cultural and economic ruin the illegal invasion has brought us. He’s governed as a moderate Democrat, not a Republican conservative"

Amen and right on!!!
43 posted on 10/12/2007 5:05:10 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hunter and Tancredo in '08! La Raza - the PLO of the Western Hemisphere)
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To: AuntB

>>I have certainly heard of such arrests in Mexico.<<

The trouble is that the Mexican police (with some exceptions) are so corrupt that many abuses are not reported. In some cases, if an American is involved in an accident with a Mexican driver, the American is automatically guilty. (Yes, Mexicans might get railroaded in the USA too.) I met an American who spent months in a Mexican jail before some family member paid a bribe. It’s often better for an American to pay the bribe, because

1) That is the only way out

2) No criminal record. But Mexico’s records are kind of shaky anyway, so who knows if that would make any difference. I suppose that Mexican officials might make a determined effort to keep records of those who refuse to pay bribes.

WRT Mexico, I don’t think that US citizens always receive just treatment. OTOH, if the USA does not “review” (whatever that means) the cases of Mexicans-on-death-row-who-didn’t-talk-to-the-Mexican-Consulate, Mexico could retaliate by treating US citizens even worse. Still, in my view, to give up our sovereignty in fear of Mexican retaliation would be like negotiating with terrorists.


44 posted on 10/12/2007 6:05:06 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: T.L.Sink
Elizabeth Pena and Jennifer Ertman - two innocent teenage girls - were savagely raped and murdered by an illegal alien gang.

Bears repeating, since it seems be getting lost in the sea of Kool-Aid.

45 posted on 10/12/2007 6:07:37 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Right - look what happened to Dog the bounty hunter. If his case hadn’t received so much publicity he’d be rotting away forever in a Mexican jail - unless he bribed his way to freedom.


46 posted on 10/12/2007 7:18:10 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Still, in my view, to give up our sovereignty in fear of Mexican retaliation would be like negotiating with terrorists.

Agreed!

47 posted on 10/12/2007 9:56:15 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: T.L.Sink

>>If his case hadn’t received so much publicity he’d be rotting away forever in a Mexican jail - unless he bribed his way to freedom.<<

I don’t think Bush’s DOJ was on Dog’s side; in fact, they seemed too eager to do whatever Mexico said.

I have been wondering if Bush has some secret agreement with Mexico for some time now.


48 posted on 10/12/2007 12:04:55 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

You’re sure right about that. Not only the DOJ but the late Alberto Gonzales (the nation’s chief law enforcement officer - ha!ha!) was an amnestyite and utterly failed to secure our borders, not only against a foreign illegal invasion but against any terrorists. But, of course, borders don’t have any meaning to an administration that’s more concerned with the creation of the NAU and the Security and Prosperity Partnership!


49 posted on 10/12/2007 2:28:20 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: Man50D
Further proof that that Republicans and the American people as a whole are not as anti-amnesty as some here think.
50 posted on 10/12/2007 5:43:22 PM PDT by End Times Crusader (TehRon Paul - domestic enemy of America)
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To: wideawake

“The issue here is not sovereignty - the issue here is reciprocity”

If an American citizen did to children in Mexico
what this scumbag did to our children, I could care less if he got to talk to the American counsulate.


51 posted on 10/12/2007 6:33:36 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: End Times Crusader

>>Further proof that that Republicans and the American people as a whole are not as anti-amnesty as some here think.<<

Man50D was talking about Giuliani, not about the US public. Almost everyone here knows that many so-called Republicans are not to be trusted.


52 posted on 10/12/2007 6:38:21 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: wideawake
Are you aware of any cases in which a US citizen was arrested in Mexico and not put in touch with the US consulate?

ROFL, I can name a thousand of them. Of course, that's assuming the Americans made it out of those notorious Mexican jails first.

53 posted on 10/12/2007 6:41:27 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Tagline Removed By Moderator)
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To: wideawake
What if the two killers were Haitian. Bush would have shrugged and continued reading the Sports pages.

Mexico has the President by the groin.

54 posted on 10/12/2007 6:46:21 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Tagline Removed By Moderator)
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To: AuntB

bttt


55 posted on 10/12/2007 7:10:03 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
If Republicans and the American people are so anti-amnesty, then why aren’t Tancredo and Hunter leading in the polls?
56 posted on 10/12/2007 10:02:20 PM PDT by End Times Crusader (TehRon Paul - domestic enemy of America)
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To: End Times Crusader

>>If Republicans and the American people are so anti-amnesty, then why aren’t Tancredo and Hunter leading in the polls?<<

It’s true that if 95% of the people were as opposed to the kind of amnesty that Bush/Kennedy tried to force down our throats as I am, they would take the time to learn more about the candidates’ real intentions and records. Giuliani made a statement that he was opposed to the Bush/Kennedy amnesty bill for technical reasons, and I think all of the Republican candidates have made statements opposing amnesty.

However, polls on support of candidates, in general, do not correlate that well to polls of the candidates’ true positions on issues. Hillary voted for the war resolution, Obama voted against, and yet Hillary has a huge lead. I would say that winning the general election is more important to Dems than perceived shades of anti-war commitment. Giuliani gets support from people partly because of name recognition and the feeling that he would carry states that “right wing” candidates would not.

Thanks to Bush’s bungling of the war, we might get a pro-amnesty/”pro-choice” congress and POTUS, even though I believe that majorities in both parties are opposed to amnesty. I will work to try to prevent that from happening.


57 posted on 10/13/2007 8:59:53 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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