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Rudy Giuliani Gets Exposed As Fraud by NY Firefighters
International Association of Fire Fighters ^ | IAFF.org

Posted on 10/07/2007 4:36:58 PM PDT by Don Betts

Giuliani Bungled Preparation in Years After 1993 Attack on Trade Center.

Critical failures by former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani before, during and after the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001, raise serious questions about his ability to be commander-in-chief.

In this thirteen minute documentary, fire fighters, fire officers and family members give dramatic testimony about Giuliani's leadership failures. Their dramatic stories tell how Giuliani failed to provide the FDNY with radios that worked, which led to the deaths of 121 fire fighters inside the World Trade Center's North Tower because they were unable to hear orders to evacuate.

Fire fighters also point to Giuliani's poor judgment in placing his emergency command center at 7 World Trade Center, a known terrorist target after the 1993 bombing.

This video documents the mayor's lack of respect for the fallen when he called off the recovery effort at Ground Zero on Nov. 1, 2001, after $200 million in gold bullion was recovered.

"We produced this documentary because we need to make sure our members know Giuliani's real record," said IAFF General President Harold Schaitberger.

"The UFA participated in this video to correct the myth that Rudy Giuliani has perpetrated on the American public," said Steve Cassidy, president of the Uniformed Firefighters Association of Greater New York, IAFF Local 94.

The Giuliani campaign defended the former mayor's record by issuing a release that lists items he purchased for FDNY.

"But the campaign, with its response, has neglected to address the charges of failed leadership outlined in our documentary," President Schaitberger said.

"Purchasing equipment for a fire department doesn't qualify any mayor to be president," said Jack McDonnell, president of New York City Local 854, the Uniformed Fire Officers Association.

"If that's the litmus test for president of the United States, then most mayors in this country qualify for the job. Giuliani is running on his 9/11 record, and his 9/11 record is laced with failures in preparedness and response," McDonnell said.

The IAFF has not made an endorsement in the 2008 presidential election. Local 94 supported President George W. Bush in the 2004 election, while the IAFF and Local 854 endorsed Sen. John Kerry.

The International Association of Fire Fighters, headquartered in Washington, DC, represents more than 280,000 full-time professional fire fighters and paramedics in every state in the United States and in Canada. More information is available at www.iaff.org and at www.rudy-urbanlegend.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: candidates; giuliani; presidential; republican
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I'm not sure if I trust Rudy Giuliani.
1 posted on 10/07/2007 4:37:00 PM PDT by Don Betts
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To: Don Betts

Does the mayor buy radios for the fire department, or does the fire department buy radios for the fire department?


2 posted on 10/07/2007 4:41:22 PM PDT by marron
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To: Don Betts
I'm not sure if I trust Rudy Giuliani.

The hero of 9/11? America's Mayor? You don't trust him?

Good call.

3 posted on 10/07/2007 4:41:57 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Don Betts

BFD...Union heads (aka Lib Lovers) put out a statement. They should be complaining about their own chain of command for radio problems and preparedness.


4 posted on 10/07/2007 4:43:58 PM PDT by frankjr
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To: Don Betts
...while the IAFF and Local 854 endorsed Sen. John Kerry.
5 posted on 10/07/2007 4:45:14 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: Don Betts

why are they comming out now?

They are not scheduled to come out until AFTER Guiliani is annointed.


6 posted on 10/07/2007 4:45:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: marron

Does the mayor buy radios for the fire department, or does the fire department buy radios for the fire department?

The City buys the equipment that is suppose to be bid out. Most Cities buy on low bids if the bidder follows the specs of the bid.


7 posted on 10/07/2007 4:46:03 PM PDT by rineaux (Just say NO to taglines)
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To: Don Betts

I’m a big fan of Mayor Rudy, not sure about President Rudy.

However, these union leaders do not represent the bulk of the NYPD rank and file. They are the few that clapped when Hillary came on stage to speak to the firefighters at the concert shortly after 9/11.


8 posted on 10/07/2007 4:47:30 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Don Betts

I’m not sure I trust Rudy either. But I sure as hell don’t trust any union. I’d discount the daylights out of anything coming out of any union. You should, too.


9 posted on 10/07/2007 4:48:02 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Incorrigible

Sorry, NYPD = FDNY in the above reply.


10 posted on 10/07/2007 4:48:18 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Don Betts

So.. Rather than develop and approve budgets for City Departments, The Mayor should direct them how to spend the money? Or should he personally purchase and deliver Radios?

Besides~ everyone knows its all GWB’s fault, who are these people kidding. I saw it on a video on the interweb -Sarc


11 posted on 10/07/2007 4:48:27 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Contrarianism is Creativity for the Untalented)
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To: Don Betts

But you are willing to trust Mr. Schaitberger who gave the following:

Schaitberger, Harold A. Mr.
Washington , DC 20003
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE F
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTERS INTERESTED IN REGISTRATION AND EDUCATION PAC $200
primary 08/15/07
SCHAITBERGER, HAROLD
WASHINGTON, DC 20006 BOXER, BARBARA (D)
Senate - CA
FRIENDS OF BARBARA BOXER $1,000
primary 07/29/03
SCHAITBERGER, HAROLD A
WASHINGTON, DC 20006
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE F CARSON, BRAD R (D)
Senate - OK
BRAD CARSON FOR SENATE $500
primary 05/01/03
Schaitberger, Harold A Mr.
Washington, DC 20006
International Association of Fire F CARSON, BRAD (D)
House (OK 02)
BRAD CARSON FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE $500
primary 05/01/03

Schaitberger, Harold A
Arlington, VA 22202
Not employed/Not employed KERRY, JOHN F (D)
President
JOHN KERRY FOR PRESIDENT INC $2,000
primary 07/14/04

http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Russell_Simmons.php


12 posted on 10/07/2007 4:49:38 PM PDT by Perdogg (Join the NCAA basketball thread - Freemail me)
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To: Don Betts

So, I guess their candidate Hillary Clinton has fixed everything as she promised?!


13 posted on 10/07/2007 4:50:06 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: JoeSixPack1

They don’t care, Hillary thanks them for doing her work.


14 posted on 10/07/2007 4:50:19 PM PDT by Perdogg (Join the NCAA basketball thread - Freemail me)
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To: frankjr
They should be complaining about their own chain of command for radio problems and preparedness.

Exactly.

15 posted on 10/07/2007 4:52:10 PM PDT by marron
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To: Perdogg

But you are willing to trust Mr. Schaitberger who gave the following:

Schaitberger, Harold A. Mr.
Washington , DC 20003
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE F
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTERS INTERESTED IN REGISTRATION AND EDUCATION PAC $200
primary 08/15/07
SCHAITBERGER, HAROLD
WASHINGTON, DC 20006 BOXER, BARBARA (D)
Senate - CA
FRIENDS OF BARBARA BOXER $1,000
primary 07/29/03
SCHAITBERGER, HAROLD A
WASHINGTON, DC 20006
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE F CARSON, BRAD R (D)
Senate - OK
BRAD CARSON FOR SENATE $500
primary 05/01/03
Schaitberger, Harold A Mr.
Washington, DC 20006
International Association of Fire F CARSON, BRAD (D)
House (OK 02)
BRAD CARSON FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE $500
primary 05/01/03

Schaitberger, Harold A
Arlington, VA 22202
Not employed/Not employed KERRY, JOHN F (D)
President
JOHN KERRY FOR PRESIDENT INC $2,000
primary 07/14/04

So to correct the Title:

NY (alleged) Firefighters exposed as Fraud by Free Republic


16 posted on 10/07/2007 4:53:38 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Contrarianism is Creativity for the Untalented)
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To: Don Betts

Are these Hillary’s union boss firefighters or the people’s firefighters? (rhetorical)


17 posted on 10/07/2007 4:55:34 PM PDT by llevrok (Born a ham and never cured.)
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To: rineaux

“losest responsive, responsible bidder” ~ it’s not enough to simply be the low bidder.


18 posted on 10/07/2007 4:57:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Don Betts
1) He likes to dress up as a chick.

2) Not really focused on his children.

3) He allowed people to call him a hero when he was not.

4) He made millions speaking about 9/11. How much of that did he give to the families of the dead?

5) He started businesses off the back of the 9/11 horror.

6) He likes to dress up as a chick.....

19 posted on 10/07/2007 4:57:24 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Tagline:(Optional, printed after your name on post0:)
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To: DanielRedfoot
So to correct the Title:

NY (alleged) Firefighters exposed as Fraud by Free Republic

Post of the day!

20 posted on 10/07/2007 4:58:06 PM PDT by Ace's Dad ("but every now and then, the Dragon comes to call")
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