Posted on 10/07/2007 11:47:19 AM PDT by wagglebee
Which is why we must really start pushing personhood; once the Supreme Court agrees that the unborn baby is a person, abortion collapses.
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“Stop abortion.... It’s for the children.”
That should be a bumper sticker.
So do I. And it's why I see no major difference on the issue between Romney and Rudy. Romney was smart enough not to become a NARAL cheerleader, but why couldn't he at least have gotten a "personhood" bill on the floor of the MA legislature? Most of the members are at least nominally Catholics, and it would have started a raging debate in Massholeland. Romney shucked and jived it.
Rudy was an out-and-out advocate for "equal funding," for abortion, which rules him out as a candidate in my book. But, and it's a big strategic "but,".... one which other Republicans ought to go for. Rudy wants to throw the issue to the states. What he has not said, and which damns him, is that he would work to get this on the floor of every state legislature in country. But you know, neither have Mitt, Dunc, Fred, or the Tanc, or any other Republican out there.
That could actually work. If just one big state could pass a "personhood bill," and have the law upheld by SCOTUS against the then inevitable ACLU Challenge, the floodgate opens and we win big.
We, the Lifers, trail the Choicers Abortionists murderers. There, that's more accurate.
The more consistent ‘pro-choice’ persons agree that the unborn are indeed human and persons ... but that the mother-person has pre-emptive rights over the unborn-person.
Strategically, it is good to push them into this corner and have them defend abortion from this position.
That is the way to win. It is starting to work in place like the UK where abortion, even among pro-abortion people, is starting to be less and less defensible, and the majority want MORE regulations curtailing the practice. They’ve seen the result of pre-emptive mother-person logic play itself out to the extreme and there is now a backlash.
The strategy, a ‘reverse’ psychology, have abortion clinic protesters with signs that read the reasons ‘why’ to stop in for an abortion, like,
Mistress Pregnant? Wife May Find Out? Stop Here;
There are probably many more that would be very effective.
If the Pro Life lobby wants to win it must realize it will do that in the Supreme Court, not in congress or the White House.
To that end, allowing Hillary to grab the nomination (with a congenial congress) of SC justices will set the movement back at least 20 years.
If Hillary gets in look for liberal SCJ’s to consider retiring during her reign (Ginsberg is hanging on by her nails) and 2 conservatives to just plain get too old. A swing of 4 seats will lock the SC to the left for decades at 6 to 3.
The Pro Life lobby should campaign as hard as it can to get a suitable pro life nominee, but if they don’t they should still consider voting GOP as they will at least have some influence over the selection, with Hillary they will get the worst nominees (for their movement) possible.
I like that one...
Just as long as you understand that Rooty Toot would probably nominate justices who are just as liberal as Hitlery.
Doubtful. He will have the entire party and most voters all over his tail. Remember Harriet Meyers.
I understand it’s not the best situation, but can you imagine any situation that would be better with Hillary?
Everything starts with the BIG LIE, abortion may be legal, they certainly are NOT safe (especially for the baby who suffers brutally and then dies in the process) and after nearly 50 million abortions, one can hardly consider them rare.
Slavery was once not only legal is was guaranteed in the constitution. In fact, slaves were considered less than a whole person (white, black and brown skinned babies aren't even granted that status.)
Slavery was a legal fact that was ratified by the states and affirmed by the Supreme Court -- until some very dedicated, God fearing people demanded a change.
The abolitionists held their ground, finally got a President, who if he didn't totally agree with the anti-slavery movement, concurred that the "peculiar practice" be abolished.
The abolitionists didn't cave and accept someone who slapped them in their faces with "slavery will always be with us and I agree with it" (a la Guiliani) nonsense and claim that half a pie was better than none -- no slavery had to go (as abortion does today.)
In 1996, some of us listened to the "enlightened" RINOs tell us that Dole, even if he insulted pro-lifers would be a "good President," held our noses and voted.
There comes a time to say NO MORE, we now have pro-life candidates for '08, who could get elected but the MEDIA doesn't want them, won't give them the time of day for people to listen to them and the really BIG money bets on more abortions, after all they are making millions off it so why look a "gift horse in the mouth."
I understand it’s not the best situation, but can you imagine any situation that would be better with Hillary?
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Very important to remember this stark fact when thinking about the elections.
Getting abortion banned and getting rid of abortion are two completely different things. It could very well be possible to get abortion banned, but getting rid of abortion would require nothing less than a police state, which is not going to happen in this country.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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