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"A rational person would know that rational people disagree often and that on any subject people would disagree"

Correct. If drugs were legal, rational people would disagree on exactly how much their use would increase. An irrational person would say drug use would decrease.

Are you saying it's rational to expect drug use to decrease if legalized?

"I feel it can only be said that we don't know the true numbers one way or the other."

Correct. How could we possiby know? So, what does reason tell you what would happen? Isn't it reasonable to say that drug use would increase?

Since reason is the basis for rational thought, and it is reasonable to expect drug use to increase, it is therefore rational thought. Thinking any different is irrational.

A rational person would look at the drugs and rank them based on the harm they are known to cause or likely to cause.

Based on that we would place alcohol and tobacco near the top, known to be very harmful, and marijuana near the bottom, nearly harmless, with other drugs treated similarly.

But that would not fit the Drug War Template.

If the government gets out of drugs, yes, I believe numbers will come down.

I put that everyone that wants drugs now, does them. I do not believe any drug number, private or public, now or in the future, so we don’t know and will not know other than an exercise in rhetoric.

However, in your experience which is more effective for solutions, government or private?

Which are better schools?
Which are better hospitals?
Which are better housing?
And so forth.
Why do you think that government which is bad, poorer at schools, hospitals, housing will be better than private efforts?

We know when the government enters a arena, like charity, it displace private effort. So, since I put that private efforts in all things are more effective, then I must argue that the government get out of the way with suppression of drug usage.

Government WOD makes drugs usage higher. The war should be fought on an individual basis. So long as the government relives individuals, families, employers from this hard nasty work, people will not do the work themselves. This is welfare 101.

You supporting the WOD is no different that supporting public housing projects. You and those like you are making problems worse and getting between the parties that need to hash this social problem out.

You are part of the problem.

In other words, government makes drug usage worse. I believe this to be true, by reason and observation.