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Leading indicators point down for GOP
AP ^ | September 29, 2007 | David Espo

Posted on 09/29/2007 4:27:18 PM PDT by CheyennePress

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To: CheyennePress
Denying poor children of healthcare?

Just goes to show how the MSM can manipulate the information. The President never wanted to deny poor children healthcare. He didn't want the Democrats to ADD children to the plan who were well ABOVE the poverty level. The Democrats simply wanted to create a middle class entitlement.

21 posted on 09/29/2007 4:53:06 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: CheyennePress; All

I would like to see these polls split between men and women, not between parties. That will tell you the real story. The real story is the conversation going on between Democrats and women beyond the “emotional” hearing of the men in this country, even capturing the interest of a certain amount of “safe conservative” women!

That is what you are seeing in a lot of these “close” elections, the women(even “conservative” women who would never tell there husbands how they voted...they might get “upset”) are tipping the balance in favor of the Democrats.

Women are nesters and they want health care for the children and they want them educated. They don’t want to see husbands, children, boy-friends killed in any war. These issues go to the heart of how women are constructed and no amount of logic or intelligent discourse will get many of them to change their minds, they’ll just smile and nod at you, while attempting to change the subject.


22 posted on 09/29/2007 4:55:33 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: DogandPonyShow

LOL-—thanks I needed that.


23 posted on 09/29/2007 4:57:18 PM PDT by Liz (questions)
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To: dufekin
Read The New York Times, which most Americans consider the Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing but the Truth.

I am sorry, but since you started with a stupid and incorrect statement like, there is no need to debate with you anymore.

24 posted on 09/29/2007 4:58:28 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: All

A cannibal was walking through the jungle and came upon a restaurant operated by a fellow cannibal.

Feeling somewhat hungry, he sat down and looked over the menu:

+ Tourist: $5
+ Broiled Missionary: $10.00
+ Fried Explorer: $15.00
+ Baked Democrat or Grilled Republican: $100.00

The cannibal called the waiter over and asked, ‘Why such a price difference for the politicians?’

The cook replied, “Have you ever tried to clean one? They’re so full of crap, it takes all morning.”


25 posted on 09/29/2007 4:59:34 PM PDT by Liz (questions)
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To: CheyennePress
At the same time, President Bush’s approval is stuck in the mid-30s

Ah, so what? That is probably more than Clinton’s ratings at the end of his term and I do not see the 11% approval rating for congress anywhere. Anyone?

<>Bush chose the wrong item to pick a fight with the Democrats over. Denying poor children of healthcare

No he did not. That could be another huge boondoggle that will never get smaller.

The government needs to get out of providing or subsidizing health care.
Kids have been doing fine without it for the last 40,000 years.

All that being said, the plain fact and the main dynamic that I see has not changed since the Anyone but Bush stickers first appeared.

That mentality has morphed into anyone but the GOP, no matter how foul, stupid, or corrupt.

We look to lose many seats in the senate and I predict a 57 seat majority for the dems at the end of 08.

I also put this squarely on the shoulders of the amnesty at any cost and be damned to the American voter mentality that pervaded the higher echelons of the present day GOP.

Trent Lott is a perfect example, along with Bush’s snotty remark; “see you at the signing.”

This arrogance has alienated the base and I see dire times ahead indeed for we conservatives and true patriots.

26 posted on 09/29/2007 5:00:08 PM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: dufekin
PS: The rest of your extremely unrealistic doom and gloom post is very laughable, are you sure that you are not thinking of committing suicide? Now that is a serious matter and for sure it is not laughbale.
27 posted on 09/29/2007 5:02:38 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: MNJohnnie

“MORON CONSERVATIVES,” as you put it, know that RINOs are going to get what they vote for = Democrats in charge for a long, long time. The Republican party is begging to go the way of the Whigs by becoming the “me too Democrats.”


28 posted on 09/29/2007 5:03:05 PM PDT by penowa
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To: sphinx

Hey, let’s up the ante, if Hillary bids $5,000 for a baby in every bassinet, let’s enter the bidding at $5,500. We should also trot out a $115 Billion health care program, bigger than her $110 billion, raise you $5.

The government is going to pay for all free stuff, so the one I want is free legal care. Why not, it’s free, and it surly is needed.

Let’s roll.


29 posted on 09/29/2007 5:04:02 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: CheyennePress

When the Republican Party returns to what it was meant to be, perhaps it can woo it’s huge former Conservative base back. They lost us when they broke with their Contract With America, and the party has been losing steam ever since. The wimpy Republicans who were voted out of office in 2004 need not reapply.

I, for one, will not send one dime to the Rockefeller Republicans now in charge of the White House and the Republican Party. I do, however, contribute generously to Conservative candidates with consistent Conservative records.

If the Conservatives cannot recapture the control of the GOP, or at least gain healthy and fair recognition, I think that it is time for traditional Conservatives to form a new party.


30 posted on 09/29/2007 5:06:56 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Petronski

The key for the Democrats is to work the words “children” and “health care” into the title of any legislation they hope to pass, regardless of the bill’s actual subject or content.


31 posted on 09/29/2007 5:10:19 PM PDT by Mr J (All IMHO.)
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To: CheyennePress
Republicans have yet to put forward a prominent challenger for any Democratic-held seat, although an announcement is expected soon in Louisiana.

And there you have it, the little gem in the article that is the most basic truth. State parties have expended so much effort to not groom up the next generation of candidates that the pantry is bare. Thou must roll over to the RINO incumbent and not put in a realistic primary competition for the sake of 'party unity.'

32 posted on 09/29/2007 5:13:41 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: jveritas

Dude, please read on. He’s being really, really sarcastic. It’s kinda funny, too.


33 posted on 09/29/2007 5:14:29 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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>>>By a margin of 47-42 percent, they said Democrats will do a better job of protecting against terrorism and military threats.<<<

If you look at the survey, the survey was performed over the weekend of September 14-16, and interviewed “adults” 18 and over. There was no delineation or mention of whether the sample size included registered, likely, or even voters.


34 posted on 09/29/2007 5:18:31 PM PDT by Perdogg (Join the NCAA basketball thread - Freemail me)
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To: Alas Babylon!; dufekin
Dufekin:

If you are being sarcastic then I apologize for misunderstanding you.

35 posted on 09/29/2007 5:20:59 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: CheyennePress

perception is reality.

and tv is democrap controlled.


36 posted on 09/29/2007 5:23:51 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: jveritas
I certainly do not believe that this is the case and it is more like 60% to 40% in favor of Republicans when it comes to this issue.

While I agree the poll is not quite accurate, I will contend with you on this point. The Republicans have lost credibility on this issue for failing outright to protect the border. In fact, their promotion of open border policies flies in the face of the security they presume to uphold.

I am as hard-right as they come, and even I am not confident that we have been made safe from attack precisely because the border remains unguarded.

Furthermore, attempts to trump sovereignty for reasons of free trade are probably more damaging in the long run than the short-run security problems we are forced to suffer.

Face it. The Repubs have sold their soul on the issue of security and have left us wide open to attack, their only motive being big-business free trade influences trumping that safety and sovereignty.

the only remedy is for the RINOs to step down and turn over the reigns of power to the conservative wing or suffer turning them over to the Liberal Democrats in the election.

37 posted on 09/29/2007 5:29:10 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: dufekin
If anything, it’s worse. Read The New York Times, which most Americans consider the Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing but the Truth.

Good God! That's one of the most idiotic posts in recent memory. MOST AMERICANS find the NY Times a leftist/RAT shill mouthpiece. That's why they are circling the drain.

38 posted on 09/29/2007 5:30:38 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: SuziQ
The Republican can plan to go the way of the Whigs if they keep trying to match the Democrats in spending and corruption. If we get a strong conservative as the Presidential nominee, maybe he can slap some sense into them, then bring them along on his coattails.

That is exactly TRUE. We have only to agree upon what the term "conservative" means. It is my opinion that we must dig deep into the hard right for the nominee, as only a rock-ribbed undeniable conservative will energize the base. it is a matter of trust, and the RINO wing has proved itself to be without scruples.

39 posted on 09/29/2007 5:37:03 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: FFranco
I believe there is a very strong possibility President Bush will authorize a pre-emptive strike on Iran next year. When that happens, the American people will rally around their president and his party. That will make a Big Difference in the 2008 election.

That may be true, but considering the current rhetoric about the war, one must be careful of a "wag the dog" scenario.

40 posted on 09/29/2007 5:43:19 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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