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Carbon Dioxide Did Not End The Last Ice Age, Study Says
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070927154905.htm ^

Posted on 09/29/2007 7:44:01 AM PDT by chessplayer

Science Daily — Carbon dioxide did not cause the end of the last ice age, a new study in Science suggests, contrary to past inferences from ice core records.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; environment; globalwarming
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1 posted on 09/29/2007 7:44:03 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

You know that you can post entire articles from some online publications, right? Science Daily being one of them.


2 posted on 09/29/2007 7:48:45 AM PDT by saganite
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To: chessplayer

Really interesting....We will see how fast the MSM takes notice of this one...I won’t hold my breath


3 posted on 09/29/2007 7:50:26 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: chessplayer

But I am sure that there had to be some connection. ALGORE says it is happening now so because he said it, it has to be true. Maybe there were CO2 emitting industries way back then hidden deep in the woods just cranking out CO2. Folks were mowing their yards and driving their SUVs down to the tarpits to watch the sabre tooth tigers die off. Barney and Fred with Betty and Wilma just didn’t care. They had Karl Rove bumper stickers on their rockmobiles then before it was cool.


4 posted on 09/29/2007 7:50:48 AM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: chessplayer
Just as I thought! Antarctica, penguins, and no Prius possibilites. ..and cranky seals were the cherry on top!

Since recent observations show an increase in the Antarctic ice caps we can only conclude that...Algorge should be crowned and I've got a Louisville Slugger in my garage....

5 posted on 09/29/2007 7:53:31 AM PDT by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: chessplayer

I spend my days waiting for a hapless libtard to come along and promote hydrogen vehicles that exhaust only harmless water vapor.

Then I slap them down with the fact that water vapor is the most abundant greenhouse gas.


6 posted on 09/29/2007 7:58:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Young Werther
and I've got a Louisville Slugger in my garage
 
You could add (Made in the USA)
 
  "and I've got a Louisville Slugger (Made In The USA) in my garage"

7 posted on 09/29/2007 7:59:41 AM PDT by united1000
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To: chessplayer
Stott and colleagues found a correlation between melting Antarctic sea ice and increased springtime solar radiation over Antarctica, suggesting this might be the energy source. As the sun pumped in heat, the warming accelerated...

Holy Moley!! The sun causes the earth to warm. And somehow solar output must have increased!!

8 posted on 09/29/2007 8:08:08 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: united1000
You bet!

The Bat Factory

9 posted on 09/29/2007 8:09:36 AM PDT by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Spock noted early on that Earth's sun is an M Class VARIABLE star. Now I know that Algurth has difficulty with words with greater than one syllable so"

"there's no splainin Lucy!"

10 posted on 09/29/2007 8:12:56 AM PDT by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: chessplayer
Ice Age Ends Smashingly: Did A Comet Blow Up Over Eastern Canada? (Carolina Bays)
11 posted on 09/29/2007 8:16:14 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: chessplayer

later


12 posted on 09/29/2007 8:24:17 AM PDT by I_be_tc
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To: blam

Art Bell’s guest last night, Graham Hancock, mentioned the Carolina Bays in association with the comet incident. He pointed out that not much would be found from a hypothetical civilization from that time since they would probably be deep under ocean level now. Hancock has made a couple thousand SCUBA dives on possible stone ruins offshore of Asia and India and mentioned a circular formation the size of Stonehenge.


13 posted on 09/29/2007 8:24:35 AM PDT by RightWhale (25 degrees today. Phase state change accomplished.)
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To: cripplecreek
Then I slap them down with the fact that water vapor is the most abundant greenhouse gas.

All you have to do is tell them to look in the sky and say, you see those white puffy things? They are clouds...i.e. water vapor. That's what causes global warming and cooling.

14 posted on 09/29/2007 8:24:54 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: chessplayer
A very careful look at the Vostok ice core data indicates that the Earth’s temperature increased (no know scientific why yet) and after a short interval of time (say 800 years) the CO2 increased. Something about the increase in the Earth’s temperature apparently releases the CO2 (and I would suspect methane CH4 also).

Notice the current main stream press reports want to talk about how the melting Arctic is releasing (or is going to release CO2 into the atmosphere) This CO2 which is released MAY cause additional heating.

Notice, that no one talks what happens to the CO2 after it is in the atmosphere. The carbonate rocks in/on the Earth are a huge carbon sink. The CO2 that is in the atmosphere is (in large part) absorbed into the oceans of the world. When the ocean waters become saturated enough the dissolved CO2 (in whatever its form based on the Ph of the water) reacts with the sediments on the bottom of the ocean ultimately plating out limestone which is usually subducted into the Earth’s crust/mantle to reappear back on the Earth’s surface in about 250 million years (give or take a few).

15 posted on 09/29/2007 8:27:24 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: chessplayer
A very careful look at the Vostok ice core data indicates that the Earth’s temperature increased (no know scientific why yet) and after a short interval of time (say 800 years) the CO2 increased. Something about the increase in the Earth’s temperature apparently releases the CO2 (and I would suspect methane CH4 also).

Notice the current main stream press reports want to talk about how the melting Arctic is releasing (or is going to release CO2 into the atmosphere) This CO2 which is released MAY cause additional heating.

Notice, that no one talks what happens to the CO2 after it is in the atmosphere. The carbonate rocks in/on the Earth are a huge carbon sink. The CO2 that is in the atmosphere is (in large part) absorbed into the oceans of the world. When the ocean waters become saturated enough the dissolved CO2 (in whatever its form based on the Ph of the water) reacts with the sediments on the bottom of the ocean ultimately plating out limestone which is usually subducted into the Earth’s crust/mantle to reappear back on the Earth’s surface in about 250 million years (give or take a few).

16 posted on 09/29/2007 8:27:32 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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“You can no longer argue that CO2 alone caused the end of the ice ages.”

Deep-sea temperatures warmed about 1,300 years before the tropical surface ocean and well before the rise in atmospheric CO2, the study found. The finding suggests the rise in greenhouse gas was likely a result of warming and may have accelerated the meltdown — but was not its main cause.

The study does not question the fact that CO2 plays a key role in climate.

“I don’t want anyone to leave thinking that this is evidence that CO2 doesn’t affect climate,” Stott cautioned. “It does, but the important point is that CO2 is not the beginning and end of climate change.”


17 posted on 09/29/2007 8:30:00 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: shankbear

LOL....

and if God Himself came down just for algore and sat him on His knee and explained, even as only algore could understand...

algore for a moment would cock his empty head and, then... promptly leap up and scurry over to the nearest curtain to pull back to locate Karl Rove as if it were all a giant Wizard of Oz conspiracy moment.

There’s simply no reasoning with these loons!


18 posted on 09/29/2007 8:33:37 AM PDT by tpanther
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To: RightWhale

Hancock must be about due for a new documentary. He always has some very interesting ideas.


19 posted on 09/29/2007 9:26:55 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: chessplayer

THAT DARN SUN !

” “What this means is that a lot of energy went into the ocean long before the rise in atmospheric CO2,” Stott said...As the sun pumped in heat, the warming accelerated because of sea-ice albedo feedbacks, in which retreating ice exposes ocean water that reflects less light and absorbs more heat, much like a dark T-shirt on a hot day. “


20 posted on 09/29/2007 9:47:27 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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