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New Show: What does the California prison system have in common with Harvard University?
RealityBBQ.com ^ | 9/27/07 | RealityBBQ

Posted on 09/28/2007 7:56:15 AM PDT by Politics4Fun

What does the California prison system have in common with Harvard University? It costs precisely as much to house, feed and guard one prisoner for one year in a California state prison as tuition, meals and housing cost for a student enrolled for one academic year at Harvard. As far as California taxpayers are concerned, it gets even worse. Their prison system is so overcrowded that it’s reached a breaking point. Either the state finds a long-term solution, or the federal courts have warned that they’ll begin ordering the release of inmates, just to ease the crush.

In this two-hour broadcast, Ted Koppel examines how California got to this point and presents an inside view of the crisis through in-depth interviews with inmates, guards and prison officials at California State Prison Solano in Vacaville. KOPPEL ON DISCOVERY: BREAKING POINT premieres on Discovery Channel on Sunday, October 7 at 9 PM (ET/PT).

Designed to accommodate no more than 100,000 inmates, California’s prisons now hold 173,000, each at an annual cost of $43,000. How did things get so out of control? Mandatory sentencing is a big part of the answer. When California voters threw their support behind a get-tough-on-crime bill that came to be known as “three strikes and you’re out,” the state prison system filled up and is now overflowing.

While shooting this latest installment of KOPPEL ON DISCOVERY, Koppel spent a number of days among the general population at Solano. His reporting focuses on the inhabitants of H dorm, where inmates are stacked in triple-deck bunk beds on an old indoor basketball court. Correctional officers are so badly outnumbered that prison officials keep inmates segregated by race and gang affiliation in a desperate effort to avoid friction and maintain control. Even so, Solano still sees three to four race riots a year. Using smuggled cell phones, gang bosses continue running criminal operations on the street from behind prison walls. At the same time, they’re running drug and prostitution rings inside Solano.

Koppel will introduce viewers to many of Solano’s inmates, including Travis Tippets, Joseph Mason and Brian O’Neal. Having completed a 6-year sentence for assault with a deadly weapon, Tippets is being released from Solano and sits for a brief “exit interview” with Koppel. The last time he was paroled, it took Tippets less than a day to get arrested and sent back. Knowing that a third strike could land him back in prison for life, Tippets finds out how hard it is to get a job with no skills and a criminal record. Joseph Mason is a third-striker. He’s been arrested and convicted three times for non-violent burglaries, and he won’t be eligible for parole until 2019; the ultimate irony is that he voted for the Three Strikes Law. Brian O’Neal is also a non-violent repeat offender. He has been to prison 11 times, and nine of those sentences were for violating parole. Koppel’s cameras track O’Neal’s 11th release from prison as his pregnant girlfriend picks him up and the two drive out of Solano. Within weeks, O’Neal is arrested again for violating his parole.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: discovery; koppel; prison
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Can't believe that the state is proposing just letting inmates go free. And that a year in prison costs as much as a year at Harvard.
1 posted on 09/28/2007 7:56:18 AM PDT by Politics4Fun
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To: Politics4Fun

I still don’t understand why it costs so much to house an inmate.


2 posted on 09/28/2007 7:57:38 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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Easy solution: Desert. Barbed Wire. Tents. Blankets. Bologna sandwiches.
There I just the cut the cost of PRK prisons by 50% and made it possible to expand ‘em quickly and indefinitely.


3 posted on 09/28/2007 8:00:34 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Little Ray

You have varying degrees of criminality in a prison. Get the better men to build a new prison within a triple fenced area. That will cut the costs.

I know many of people are hard-assed about prisons, but if these guys are going to be released back into society we can’t keep making them worse.


4 posted on 09/28/2007 8:04:37 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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To: Politics4Fun

Thank the Drug Warriors for locking up people whose only “crime” was to ingest substances not sanctioned by the nanny state and providing a lucrative market to the criminal element.


5 posted on 09/28/2007 8:04:53 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Politics4Fun

So take a lesson from Sheriff Joe Arpaio and quit whining.


6 posted on 09/28/2007 8:05:59 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Politics4Fun

sounds like the premise for a new reality show:

We asked 5 inmates and 5 college sophomores to trade places for a week. Can the inmates make the grade? Can these ivy leaguers make it on the inside? Find out tonight on “going straight: the college years.”


7 posted on 09/28/2007 8:06:18 AM PDT by farfromhome (What does this button d.....)
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"segregated by race and gang affiliation in a desperate effort to avoid friction and maintain control"

Just put 'em all in a pen, and let them go at.

Major savings as numbers are reduced, AND, space for more of them to be brought in.

(Of course, with the ACLU and ambulance-chasers taking full advantage of an income opportunity, this method would not work in today's environment).

8 posted on 09/28/2007 8:06:35 AM PDT by traditional1 ( Fred Thompson-The ONLY electable Republican Candidate)
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To: Politics4Fun

They’re both full of people who don’t like conservatives?.................


9 posted on 09/28/2007 8:06:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: Loud Mime

I have to agree. No matter how harsh we make our laws, the vast majority of crimes do not merit a life sentence which means the vast majority of convicts will eventually be back on the street. We should do what we can to ensure that when they do get out they’ll be able to stay out.


10 posted on 09/28/2007 8:07:27 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Little Ray

“Easy solution: Desert. Barbed Wire. Tents. Blankets. Bologna sandwiches. There I just the cut the cost of PRK prisons by 50% and made it possible to expand ‘em quickly and indefinitely.”

Ah, you beat me to it.


11 posted on 09/28/2007 8:07:49 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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>Either the state finds a long-term solution...

Try ending the "War on drugs".....

12 posted on 09/28/2007 8:09:32 AM PDT by damondonion
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To: Politics4Fun

Time to outsource the sentencing phase of our correctional system to the Chinese.


13 posted on 09/28/2007 8:09:41 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Little Ray
A Liberal sees two choices:

1) Let the inmates walk free
2) Pay the inmates to walk free and attend Harvard at no charge.

A conservative says "Easy solution: Desert. Barbed Wire. Tents. Blankets. Bologna sandwiches."

Well done!

14 posted on 09/28/2007 8:10:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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Easy solution: Desert. Barbed Wire. Tents. Blankets. Bologna sandwiches.

I was going to suggest the same thing for the Harvard faculty.

15 posted on 09/28/2007 8:11:42 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedoms.)
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To: Little Ray
Yeah, I like Sheriff Joe Arpaio (Maricopa County, Arizona) pink prison underwear approach, too.

I really don't have a problem with someone who's convicted of burgalry three times spending a lot of time behind bars. But I also thought about half of prisoners are there for drug related, or other moral turpitude related offences. For such offenders, what's wrong with a tent camp in the middle of the desert? It shouldn't cost more than Harvard or MIT.


16 posted on 09/28/2007 8:12:06 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("We have met the enemy and he is us." -Pogo)
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Can't believe that the state is proposing just letting inmates go free.

It' not the state, it's liberal judges.

17 posted on 09/28/2007 8:12:44 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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“I know many of people are hard-assed about prisons, but if these guys are going to be released back into society we can’t keep making them worse.”

Sheriff Arpaio has a very low recidivism rate in his county. No one wants to return to his jail.

His prison is a success economically and keeping thugs out of his county.


18 posted on 09/28/2007 8:13:03 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Politics4Fun

Cutting the taxpayer costs of prison is simple:

1. Stop illegal immigration by enforcing the laws against persona nd business who hire them, house them, and provide them credit and banking. Pay for it all through confiscation of proeprty and fines.

2. Hang rapists, murderers, and thieves.

3. Stop the badly executed war on drugs. There are better ways to reduce drug use without jailing 1% of the population. Prohibition didn’t work for alcohol and it isn’t working for the other drugs.

4. Stop making crimes out of everything. We’re not all felons who just happen to not have been caught yet.


19 posted on 09/28/2007 8:13:04 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Loud Mime
Get the better men to build a new prison within a triple fenced area. That will cut the costs.

Nope big labor have written state law so that can't happen.

20 posted on 09/28/2007 8:13:43 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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