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To: presidio9

I was in Baldwin Hills (a predominantly Black area of Los Angeles) a few years back. I noticed that the folks made Cleopatra out to be Black even though she has a Greek parent. I am White and Native American (Lenape/Cherokee) and don’t portray myself as only one. The truth is more important to me.


10 posted on 09/26/2007 12:05:01 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: oneamericanvoice
Cleopatra was the last of the Ptolemaic Dybasty. Ptolemy I was the half brother of Alexander the Great, who was Macedonian/Northern Greek. Itis well known that Alexander was blond haired and blue eyed. While his brother Ptolemy was described as "swarthy", that is not black.

The Egyptian dynasties practiced close intermarriage supposedly to keep the royal blood pure.

Cleopatra (nobody knows what she looked like) may have looked very much like Jihan Sadat; with very regular features and lightly complected.

59 posted on 09/26/2007 12:47:56 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: oneamericanvoice
Most of Cleopatra's ancestors in the Ptolemaic dynasty are known and none of them were Egyptian, but there is one grandmother whose identity is unknown--probably another Macedonian or Greek--but the Afrocentrists have seized on the possibility that she could have been Egyptian to claim that Cleopatra herself was "black."

In Acts 21.38, the Roman tribune (chiliarch) mistakes St. Paul for an Egyptian--there is no reason to think that Paul, a Jew, was black, so the Romans didn't assume that an Egyptian had to be black.

60 posted on 09/26/2007 12:48:43 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: oneamericanvoice
I was in Baldwin Hills (a predominantly Black area of Los Angeles) a few years back. I noticed that the folks made Cleopatra out to be Black even though she has a Greek parent.

Cleopatra did not have just one Greek parent both her parents were Greek and related to one another. She came from a Dynasty that married within their own royal elite who happen to be Greek-Macedonian origins but try explaining this to moronic Afrocentric extremists. Interesting article by the way. :)

72 posted on 09/26/2007 1:59:00 PM PDT by peterpaul12345
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To: oneamericanvoice
Drinking Coffee  "I noticed that the folks made Cleopatra out to be Black even though she has a Greek parent."

Her entire lineage is Greek/Hellenistic/Macedonian.  One of her fore-fathers (I don't know how many 'greats' in front of grandfather), was a General and personal friend of Alexander, and was tutored by Aristotle himself.  This of course, leads me to believe that Cleopatra looked more like the Jennifer Anniston (Greek) than Oprah.
91 posted on 09/26/2007 3:18:04 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (There are scandals that need to be addressed. Republicans address them, Democrats re-elect them.)
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To: oneamericanvoice

I see this as not much different than those Whites who are always claiming that they were here in America before the American Indians. Idiots come in all colors.


113 posted on 09/27/2007 10:10:31 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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