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Iftaar with non-Muslims (Note: Iftaar is Ramadan meal after fasting)
Islam Q & A ^ | 9-21-2007 (pub date) | Islam Q & A

Posted on 09/20/2007 3:24:38 PM PDT by Salman

Question:
Is it haram to have iftar with non muslims like hindu, christian. etc...?

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.

It is permissible to have iftaar with non-Muslims if there is a shar’i reason for doing so, such as calling them to the true religion, or softening their hearts towards Islam, etc, which are what is hoped for if they come and eat iftaar at the tables set up for communal iftaar, as happens in some countries. But if it is done just to be friendly towards them and enjoy their company, this is a dangerous matter, because the principle of al-wala’ wa’l-bara’ (befriending the believers and showing enmity towards the disbelievers) is one of the basic principles of Islam, and one of the most important duties of the believers. This principle is referred to in a number of verses in the Book of Allaah and ahaadeeth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), for example:

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KEYWORDS: iftaar; indoctrination; intergrouprelations; islam; jihadinamerica; muhammadsminions; pc; politicalcorrectness; ramadan; stopislamization; waronislamism
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An important consideration for non-Muslims now that Ramadan dinner with the President is an American institution since 2001.
1 posted on 09/20/2007 3:24:43 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

How is this relevant to antyhing?


2 posted on 09/20/2007 3:32:06 PM PDT by Shots
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To: Shots

“But if it is done just to be friendly towards them and enjoy their company, this is a dangerous matter, because the principle of al-wala’ wa’l-bara’ (befriending the believers and showing enmity towards the disbelievers) is one of the basic principles of Islam . . .”

In other words, if you don’t convert they have to show enmity to you, not just for this meal, but all the time. Merriam Webster defines enmity as “positive, active, and typically mutual hatred or ill will.”

That seems pretty relevant to me.


3 posted on 09/20/2007 3:45:25 PM PDT by cizinec
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An important consideration for non-Muslims now that Ramadan dinner with the President is an American institution since 2001.

Yeah, well, I don't give a rat's ass one way or the other.

As a non-muslim, I consider anything to do with ramadan, muslims or islam to be wholly beneath me for any reason other than ultimate contempt for the whole damn ball of wax.

A pox on the bunch and ramadan be damned.

4 posted on 09/20/2007 3:49:11 PM PDT by OldSmaj (Death to islam. I am now and will always be, a sworn enemy of all things muslim.)
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To: Salman
Mohammed, The Mad Poet Quoted....
5 posted on 09/20/2007 3:56:55 PM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: cizinec

if you don’t convert they have to show enmity to you,

The only thing I want them to show me is their butt on the way out of the country I could careless about their religion.


6 posted on 09/20/2007 3:57:23 PM PDT by Shots
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To: Salman

I can’t understand why anybody would want to have iftaar with a bunch of CAIR/terrorist types. If I recall, this terrorist front organization, CAIR, has now become the sole representative of muslims - be they terrorists or merely enablers.


7 posted on 09/20/2007 4:02:13 PM PDT by indcons
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To: Shots

“I could careless about their religion.”

But you have to care...you need to care very much.

You need to read articles and gather information so you can be informed, and thus inform us.

Too many are being fooled. The muslim agenda will become more and more clear with the more information you have.

You must spread the word.


8 posted on 09/20/2007 4:08:18 PM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Salman

Yeh, well then you just keep your falafel’s to yourself Sayeed


9 posted on 09/20/2007 4:09:31 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: milford421

But you have to care...

Huh? Why should I care about a meaning of serving a stupid meal?

Again all I am interested in seeing their behind on the wy out of the country.


10 posted on 09/20/2007 4:20:30 PM PDT by Shots
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To: Shots

I wasn’t referring to the meal.

You should be concerned about this:

“the principle of al-wala’ wa’l-bara’ “(befriending the believers and showing enmity towards the disbelievers) is one of the basic principles of Islam, and one of the most important duties of the believers.”

...and the meaning and rationale behind it.


11 posted on 09/20/2007 4:23:24 PM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: indcons
Chips? I didn't bring any chips. But you're welcome--you guys polished off those Cheesy Pork Rinds like they were goin' outta style!
12 posted on 09/20/2007 4:23:55 PM PDT by RedQuill
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or if they want to go with us “heathens” for a beer and to bang our loose women...

Yes THEY DO participate in such things, devout my left @ss cheek...

I lived across from some of them, as soon as mommy & daddy left back to the ME, it booze and broads...

but no pork... its not halal...


13 posted on 09/20/2007 4:28:08 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Salman

pork pull and beer?


14 posted on 09/20/2007 4:29:22 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: Salman

“True religion” uranus!


15 posted on 09/20/2007 4:31:10 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: milford421

You are starting to sound like one of them. Do not tell me what I should and should not do, I made it very clear I do not give a damn about their religion or its practices.

For the record I would tell a Jehovah’s witness the very same thing


16 posted on 09/20/2007 4:43:01 PM PDT by Shots
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To: Shots

Yea, whatever. I won’t waste my time anymore.

You wouldn’t have been effective.


17 posted on 09/20/2007 5:05:52 PM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Shots
How is this relevant to antyhing?

This is the second week of fasting month for Muslims - so it quite relevant now.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

18 posted on 09/20/2007 5:10:43 PM PDT by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: OldSmaj
Hey Top !!! Are Ya' Gunna Finish Them "iftaar" colored eggs and chokit wabbits ??...;0) Image and video hosting by TinyPic
19 posted on 09/20/2007 5:15:10 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Salman

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20 posted on 09/20/2007 5:16:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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