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To: spunkets
Deer ticks are readily noticable when they bite. They are continuously painful. One attached tick 1/2 mm in size can feel like one was struck hard with a splintered 2x4. In the least case, it feels like a stick with a rusty nail, that's being twisted. The lesion for the disease is unique and always noticable. That's the clue that penicillin should be given to prevent any long term effects.

I hope to God you're not a doctor, bcse everything you just said is WRONG.

People rarely, if ever, feel bites from deer ticks. That's why every expert stresses the importance of tick checks when people have been out in lyme-endemic areas. In many cases, people don't realize they've been bitten until they develop a rash.

The lyme bull's-eye is NOT always noticeable. Often, it's in a location where it goes unnoticed, like the scalp, behind the ear, or other unmentionable places that people fail to study on a regular basis. In the case of deer tick nymph bites, the rash may be too small to be noticed. Further, the rash doesn't always present as a classic bull's-eye. It's often mistaken for a simple spider bite or ringworm in people who mount a weak defense to the bacteria.

28 posted on 09/18/2007 4:09:01 PM PDT by Mordacious
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To: Mordacious

Good information.
I never felt a tick and actually think other vectors may have transmitted it. Contracted in spring 91, diagnosed fall 92 and disabled by it winter 99.
It’s more an issue of ticks on mice in my book and insecticide treated cotton balls that they take back to their nests is good treatment.


33 posted on 09/18/2007 4:41:45 PM PDT by mcshot (Only your word and honor are truly yours - never go against either.)
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To: Mordacious
"People rarely, if ever, feel bites from deer ticks."

Sorry, chief. I've got hundreds of folks that have given me first hand evidence. A deer tick bite is painful. At the very least, it feels like a needle stick and digging around with the needle.

"That's why every expert stresses the importance of tick checks when people have been out in lyme-endemic areas."

Experts, yeah. Do a double blind and find me one that can sit still while a deer tick bites them.

"In many cases, people don't realize they've been bitten until they develop a rash."

I've never met one yet. Those that developed the rash, knew damn well a tick, or something was there before the rash came. Most often, they'll feel some noticeable pain in the eve, or in bed. Since the tick is <1/2 mm initially, most can't see the tick.

"The lyme bull's-eye is NOT always noticeable."

Assuming a normal immune system, it's noticeable and painful.

"In the case of deer tick nymph bites, the rash may be too small to be noticed."

No. The bite itself leaves a red welt that's noticeably painful, both when the tick's in, and after it's out.

"Further, the rash doesn't always present as a classic bull's-eye. It's often mistaken for a simple spider bite or ringworm in people who mount a weak defense to the bacteria."

It can't be mistaken for a spider bite by a knowledgeable person. A spider bite has 2 holes and most often hemorrhages. Only an idiot would mistake a tick, or lyme lesion for ringworm.

34 posted on 09/18/2007 4:42:15 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Mordacious
Wrong: so true.Many occasions I never saw the tick,only the “bulls eye”this last go round I saw the tick(which is almost impossible @ 59)I know the/my symptoms,an out of no where over all crappy flue like feeling associated with a fever of about 100.Same every time.My sister who is a dairy farmer in the fields all day associates it with a weird headache out of no where.
As my Doc sez,”you will know it when ya get it”
52 posted on 09/22/2007 5:04:57 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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