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McCain: I'm a Baptist [was Episcopalian, but flip-floped]
AP ^ | Sep 16, 4:30 PM (ET) | By BRUCE SMITH

Posted on 09/16/2007 5:54:12 PM PDT by Grig

HILTON HEAD ISLAND, S.C. (AP) - Republican presidential candidate John McCain, who has long identified himself as an Episcopalian, said this weekend that he is a Baptist and has been for years.

Campaigning in this conservative, predominantly Baptist state, McCain called himself a Baptist when speaking to reporters Sunday and noted that he and his family have been members of the North Phoenix Baptist Church in his home state of Arizona for more than 15 years.

"It's well known because I'm an active member of the church," the Arizona senator said.

While McCain has long talked about his family's and his own attendance at the Arizona church, he appears to have consistently referred to himself as Episcopalian in media reports.

In a June interview with McClatchy Newspapers, the senator said his wife and two of their children have been baptized in the Arizona Baptist church, but he had not. "I didn't find it necessary to do so for my spiritual needs," he said.

He told McClatchy he found the Baptist church more fulfilling than the Episcopalian church, but still referred to himself as an Episcopalian.

The Associated Press asked McCain on Saturday how his Episcopal faith plays a role in his campaign and life. McCain grew up Episcopalian and attended an Episcopal high school in Alexandria, Va.

"It plays a role in my life. By the way, I'm not Episcopalian. I'm Baptist," McCain said. "Do I advertise my faith? Do I talk about it all the time? No."

McCain does discuss faith on the campaign trail. He regularly tells crowds about a North Vietnamese POW guard who would loosen his bindings while he was a prisoner. One Christmas, the man surreptitiously signaled his Christian faith, McCain says, by making the sign of a cross with his toe in the dirt.

McCain said Sunday he doesn't know how his Baptist faith might affect his showing in South Carolina.

"I have no idea," McCain said, laughing. "I was a member of that church in 2000 and it didn't save me then." McCain lost to George W. Bush in the hotly contested South Carolina primary seven years ago.

McCain made the comments after speaking to about 200 people on this resort island during a stop on his "No Surrender" tour, to push for support of U.S. troops and the president's strategy in Iraq.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: baptist; mccain; mccainandgod; rinobaptist
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Why doesn't he just give it up and retire?
1 posted on 09/16/2007 5:54:18 PM PDT by Grig
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The way things are going, he may be the ONLY Republican capable of winning statewide in AZ for anything.


2 posted on 09/16/2007 5:55:39 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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I don’t think I can ever get past his support for amnesty.


3 posted on 09/16/2007 5:57:42 PM PDT by Rosemont
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Useful
4 posted on 09/16/2007 5:57:44 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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He should have quit right after the amnesty debacle.Could have saved himself a lot of public humiliation.
5 posted on 09/16/2007 5:58:03 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: Grig

Did he become a Baptist because he was escaping the gay clergy?


6 posted on 09/16/2007 5:59:06 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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It is embarrassing.

Next week he'll be a Wiccan, if he thinks that's what it takes.

7 posted on 09/16/2007 5:59:23 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Grig

North Phoenix Baptist Church: http://www.npbc.org/?_cmd=info&link=1


8 posted on 09/16/2007 6:00:05 PM PDT by XR7
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As an ex-Episcopalian, it is not flip-flopping, Grig. The Episcopal church left it’s members by going the way of the National Council of Churches - way to the left, against God’s word.

The Episcopal prayer book is still second only to the Bible for me, but the church is another story. I certainly cannot fault John McCain for doing what a myriad of us have also done, for the same reasons.


9 posted on 09/16/2007 6:00:29 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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I guess he’s now a EpiscoBaptisimo.


10 posted on 09/16/2007 6:02:55 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Officially Fredbacker1 but don't know how to change my name)
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I believe it is the Episcopalians that have flip-flopped. Anyone paying attention should have changed by now.


11 posted on 09/16/2007 6:03:25 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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Speaking as an ex-Episcopalian myself, I don’t blame John one bit for leaving to find a church that actually preaches God’s word. I don’t see this as hypocrisy at all.


12 posted on 09/16/2007 6:03:28 PM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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It is embarrassing.

Next week he’ll be a Wiccan, if he thinks that’s what it takes.

Sounds like Hillary.


13 posted on 09/16/2007 6:08:16 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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Funny how he forgot his new faith as a Baptist when calling his fellow brethren “agents of intolerance”


14 posted on 09/16/2007 6:08:21 PM PDT by Popman (Nothing + Time + Chance = The Universe ---------------------Bridge in Brooklyn for sale - Cheap)
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To: Grig

Nothing wrong with Senator McCain joining the Baptist Church. Welcome Senator.


15 posted on 09/16/2007 6:09:40 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: Grig

Sprinkled or Submerged? I don't even remembber. Who cares?

16 posted on 09/16/2007 6:10:48 PM PDT by DeFault User
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I will not fault the man for converting to another faith. I did it myself.


17 posted on 09/16/2007 6:12:55 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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When in Boston McCain is Catholic and Salt Lake City Mormon. And when in San Francisco he worships mother gaia.


18 posted on 09/16/2007 6:16:09 PM PDT by Maynerd (Bush is trying to sell a "War on Terror" against a "Religion of Peace." Confusing isn't it?)
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To: Grig

It is not terribly uncommon for a man to adopt the religious denomination of his wife.


19 posted on 09/16/2007 6:35:28 PM PDT by elizabetty (The job of POTUS is not about ideology alone; it is about COMPETENCE to do the job WELL.)
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I might believe this if I didn’t no McCain so well.

Sure, he could have converted, but it sounds like political opportunism to me.

This is the guy who ran a full-bore propaganda campaign bashing Bush for speaking at Bob Jones University during the 2000 campaign, and tried to set Republican Evangelicals and Catholics at each other’s throats.


20 posted on 09/16/2007 6:37:08 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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