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Weekend Talk Show *Preview* for 9/15 - 9/16/07 (not the live thread)
Network and Cable News Networks | September 15, 2007 | Network and Cable News

Posted on 09/15/2007 1:18:18 PM PDT by Phsstpok

Preview and Analysis for Weekend of September 15th and 16th, 2007

Guest lineup for the Sunday TV news shows:

NBC's "Meet the Press"
  • Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.
  • Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz..

CBS's "Face the Nation"

  • Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.
  • Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich.

Fox News Sunday

  • Defense Secretary Robert Gates
  • Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del.
  • Gen. David Petraeus


CNN "Late Edition"
  • Retired Gen. Wesley Clark
  • Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind.
  • Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas
  • Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn.
  • Rep. Tom Lantos, D-San Mateo

ABC's "This Week"

  • Defense Secretary Robert Gates
  • Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I.

That was the week that was, and the Democrats want to say "it's over, let it go."*  IOW, they just want to MoveOn (.ORG) from this weeks fiasco.  It's clear from the line up this weekend that the Dhimmicrats are going to make one last attempt to spin this as a win for their (defeatest) side, but it's not likely to work.  Petraeus done stomped 'em good.  Watch for all sound bites from his testimony to be stored in the same sealed vault as the Juanita Broderick interview and the current stories on Norman Hsu.

This weeks shows are therefore beyond predictable and verging on self parody.  It would be funny if it weren't so disgusting.

At NBC Meet The Press they obviously thought that the McCain/Kerry point/counterpoint session on Georgie Steponallofus show on ABC last Sunday was just the bees knees so they've decided to repeat it on their show this week.  Of course, incurious George arranged it so that John F'n Kerry got to go on after McCain was finished and thus gave the French one the last word.  That also offered no opportunity for McCain to rebut the fantasies of his "good friend" from Massachusetts.  But what else would you expect when they offered up Kerry as "rebuttal" to McCain?  Have you ever heard of a Republican being given an opportunity to rebut any of the moonbats?  Not likely.  Now, Lil' Timmah is touting the meeting this week as a debate.  If that means that McCain and Kerry will be on the set at the same time and afforded the opportunity to respond to each other then that could be interesting.  But it will only be interesting if McCain will drop his lame "bend over backwards" attitude towards those on the other side of the aisle in the name of "comity."  The Dhimmicrats, John F'n Kerry first among them, have never afforded any Republicans respect and McCain's insistence in deferring to them in the name of "getting along" is just sick.  Since he has to do something to jump start his failing presidential bid, perhaps bitch slapping the French one would be a good start.  My fondest hope isn't likely to be realized, however, and that would be to have a real denunciation of the historical fantasies pushed by the left about Vietnam.  Their false narrative about what supposedly happened and the lessons to be drawn is pernicious and needs to be thoroughly destroyed.  McCain could start that process, but I fear he won't.

CBS Face The Nation has Carl Levin for the anti-American point of view and John Kyl for the defense of our country.  Levin is bolstered by Ol' Bob plus the Washington Post's designated anti-war reporter, Tom Ricks.  Ricks pushed the "we've lost no matter what" meme early with his 2006 book, Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq, and he is being trotted out a lot lately to try to stem the growing perception of possible victory that is inconveniently growing in the real world.  Kyl is one of the more outspoken critics of the despicable MoveOn.ORG attack on Petraeus and, so far as I can find, Levin has refused to condemn their extremist and demonstrably false rhetoric.  If Kyl chooses to emphasize that angle watch for the troika arranged against him to have a conniption.

Fox News Sunday Has the first (for my area) of two appearances by Secretary Gates this week.  The current situation in Iraq is being increasingly credited to Gates, just as the previous problems were laid at Donald Rumsfeld's feet.  I'm not sure that Gates deserves the credit he's being given (the DBM couldn't credit Bush, so that must find someone else) and I know I don't blame Rumsfeld for past problems (I blame Powell and Bremer), but it fits the DBM narrative and the narrative must be followed at all costs, even if it's trending in an overall direction they don't like.  If we ultimately prevail in Iraq this week may be viewed as the turning point, for we won't lose over there, but in the halls of Congress.  I'm anxious to hear Gates pronouncements on both Petraeus' testimony and Bush's speech which both factored into the positive outcome.  I have a feeling that his appearances will provide the most sound bites for the week.  As counterpoint to Gates FNS regurgitates Joe "it's an absolute failure" Biden.  Romney has taken much criticism over the fact that his sons are not in the service in Iraq.  Biden has gotten much praise because his son is in the service and headed that way.  Of the two, however, I suspect that Romney isn't manipulating his son's decisions for political gain but that Biden may be.  If so Biden's ploy is perhaps the most grotesque act of political hypocrisy ever committed.  Finally FNS has a taped "feature" on General Petraeus (done earlier in the week) as their "Power Player of the Week."  For once I agree with their choice.  I doubt he'll make any news or respond to any of his critics, but the more I see him on TV the better I feel about things.  The roundtable has Brit, Juan, Bill and Nina (substituting for Mara).  While Bill Kristol will concentrate on the devastating effect on the Dhimmicrats of Petraeus' performance this week Juan will want to attack Bush's speech and ignore the General.  Does that provide the opening for a Brit smack down?  One can only hope.  Nina is likely to look beyond the surge hearings, particularly looking at the potential affects of a possible economic downturn.  Mara would be proud.

CNN Late Edition has perhaps the most stacked guest list I can recall in a long time.  Three pro-defeat Democrats and one pro-victory Republican, all presided over by Wolfe "terrorists are legitimate news sources" Blitzer.  I find it interesting that as of this moment (12:30 PM central on Saturday) CNN still hasn't provided any listings on their show web site.  Perhaps their trying to hide their plans?  Or maybe their simply embarrassed?  Nah, that would mean they have some shame or sense of right and wrong, which we know isn't the case.  Weasely Clark is apparently campaigning (franticly) for Hillary's VP slot, so think of this as part of his audition.  Don't be surprised to see him channeling Spiro Agnew's attack dog tactics, particularly defending her thighness and MoveOn.ORG from those "nasty evil Republican attacks."  Chris Dodd didn't come off any better in his encounter with General Petraeus than the rest of the Dhimmicrats, but he is such a non-entity that it barely made news even in his local, and very sympathetic (leftist) newspaper.  He will likely be trying to paint a picture of himself having scored a great triumph against the mendacity of the Bush administration in a forum where he's guaranteed no probing questions nor is he likely to be asked for any evidence or even logic to back up his claims.  Dodd will also try to champion the poor downtrodden mortgage holders in the sub-prime mortgage market, which is his new hobby horse.  Evan Bayh rounds out the bluish trio and will no doubt echo the talking points faithfully about Iraq.  Interestingly he's got a new issue that he's pursuing, "corruption" in the World Bank, which is what cost Paul Wolfowitz his job there as he dared to take on the entrenched bureaucracy.  What's bizarre is that Bayh is championing "reform" by attacking the body Wolfowitz set up to challenge the corrupt bureaucracy.  Sounds like Evan is appealing to the unionized bureaucrats who are the true base of their power.

ABC This Week rounds out the Sunday talking head shows with Gates second appearance, this time with Jack Reed repeating his role following the President's speech as rebutter in chief.  I have to say that his performance responding to Bush on Thursday night was one of the most wooden and meaningless bits of political theater I've seen in quite some time.  His delivery reminded me of Norma Desmond's closing bit in Sunset Boulevard.  Like her, he certainly wasn't ready for his close up, Mr. Demille.  Perhaps incurious George will provide him  a more friendly environment.  You know Georgie will be doing his best on behalf of Team Clinton, as he always does.  The rather one sided roundtable has Tom "the world is flat" Friedman, Fareed "American's preside over Genocide" Zakaria, Martha "Osama loves to quote her" Raddatz and George "RINOs only need apply" Will.  Someday they may discover that a political roundtable format is supposed to include competing points of view.  A forlorn hope, I know.

The Saturday shows do provide a little variety by examining the Fred Thompson campaign in addition to the Petraeus testimony.  The Beltway Boys, particularly Mort, are doing a complete reversal this week of their previous position and praising Fred and his campaign, particularly the decision to go on Leno instead of join the televised debate.  We'll see how long that lasts.  CNBC's Tim Russert Show is gearing up for the holiday book buying season, this week promoting Alan Alda's latest tome.  I'm sure it's predictably liberal in slant, but likely pleasant in tone.  One interesting bit about the book, in his own words, is that he reflects on some of his early rhetoric as "the ravings of a naïve Hollywood liberal."  Fox News Watch focuses, laser like, on how the media treated the testimony of General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker.  Neal will no doubt lament the vast right wing media's poor performance in not holding the lying war mongers to account.  He certainly will denounce the horribly unfair attacks on that great patriotic Democratic institution, MoveOn.ORG.  The Journal Editorial Report also concentrates on the surge testimony, though they do also touch on the economy and the upcoming Fed meeting.  Unlike FNW they don't have to make room for insane leftist ranting so they have time to discuss more than one substantive issue each week and, also unlike FNW, they do it in a meaningful way.

So, the drive by media is licking their wounds and attempting to paper over the sound drubbing they and their allies received at the hands of "General Betray Us."  They will try to ignore or bypass the reality of this weeks hearings and launch new attacks, both on the policy of victory and the people who beat them so soundly.  Watch for impassioned pieces to start appearing on how the VRWC fascists are trying to silence those poor voices of dissent who dare to speak truth to power.

Oh, and they won't talk much, if at all, about Norman Hsu on the shows this week.  Well duh!

I've got to say that based on how this week has gone, if we can get ourselves even a semi decent slate of candidates, particularly at the top of the ticket, we may be in a position to make an historic sweep in the 2008 elections.  Pay attention to Bill Kristol's new piece posted at Time Magazine for some context on that contrarian and seemingly counter intuitive statement.

This should be cross posted to my blog at later today.

This thread exists primarily as a heads up for who is on the weekend talks shows, what they've been invited on to push (based on their recent pronouncements) and the spin (meme) the DBM is likely trying to push based on that information. All of this is prep work for the weekly Sunday Morning Talk Show thread posted by Alas Babylon!. That thread provides a live commentary and analysis of the Sunday talking head shows, with valuable insight and exceptional fact checking. we are the Jedi Council of FreeRepublic, at least in regards to these DBM gabfests. You wanna know what was said and what it meant, as well as where they messed up? Read that thread!

Mark Kilmer has posted his excellent preview of the Sunday shows over at Redstate.COM.

Politico.COM has their Sunday Talk Show Tip Sheet

* semi-obscure reference to a 1960s BBC then NBC television news satire show and the lyrics of it's opening song, written by Tom Lehrer (yes, he's a liberal, but also very, very funny)

TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: iraq; petraeus; politics; talkshows

Show by Show Preview

Below are the topics and guests announced for these programs, along with my take on the "memes" that the shows are trying to push.  With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.

Saturday Shows For

The Beltway Boys (Mort Kondrake, Fred Barnes)

CNBC's Tim Russert Show (Tim Russert)

Fox News Watch (Eric Burns)

Journal Editorial Report (Paul Gigot) - FNC show page

NBC Meet The Press (Tim Russert)

CBS Face The Nation (Bob Schieffer)

Fox News Sunday (Chris Wallace)

CNN Late Edition (Wolf Blitzer)

ABC This Week (George Stephanopoulos)

1 posted on 09/15/2007 1:18:23 PM PDT by Phsstpok
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To: A.Hun; Bahbah; Txsleuth; MNJohnnie; eeevil conservative; Alas Babylon!; Seattle Conservative; ...

The Weekend Talk Show Preview Thread is up

It will also be cross posted to my blog at

Here's a sample of  my usually witty commentary...

... That was the week that was, and the Democrats want to say "it's over, let it go." IOW, they just want to MoveOn (.ORG) from this weeks fiasco. It's clear from the line up this weekend that the Dhimmicrats are going to make one last attempt to spin this as a win for their (defeatest) side, but it's not likely to work. Petraeus done stomped 'em good. Watch for all sound bites from his testimony to be stored in the same sealed vault as the Juanita Broderick interview and the current stories on Norman Hsu. ...

2 posted on 09/15/2007 1:22:22 PM PDT by Phsstpok (When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring!)
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I’d just like to say, that I LOVE reading this thread on Saturdays. Kudos, atta-boy, and a Bucket Full O Pride to you for such a great Sunday show overview each and every week.

3 posted on 09/15/2007 1:35:26 PM PDT by The Drowning Witch (Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:)
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4 posted on 09/15/2007 1:53:13 PM PDT by phs3 (If you call a terrorist a freedom fighter, I call you the enemy.)
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Not to turn this into a Hunter thread, but Rep. Hunter has been running the cable news circuit this week because of his role in the Petraeus hearings.

Does he get invited to the Sunday talk shows?

Nope, not a chance. Same old dog and pony shows.

And for those citing “equal time?” Well, Biden is still whoring himself.

This GOP primary is looking more and more like a media-orchestrated farce every day...

5 posted on 09/15/2007 2:39:41 PM PDT by jmyrlefuller ("The Price is Right has given away more money than anyone except welfare"-- Bob Barker)
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To: Phsstpok

Thanks for all you do!!

OBTW — You forgot to mention that John Kerry was in Viet Nam

He has the hat and everything

6 posted on 09/15/2007 2:40:55 PM PDT by acsrp38 (to dems: NUTS!!!)
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OBTW — You forgot to mention that John Kerry was in Viet Nam

Actually, if you notice, I listed him as being the Dhimmicrat Senator from the Socialist Republic of Vietnam Massachussetts

7 posted on 09/15/2007 2:51:21 PM PDT by Phsstpok (When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring!)
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Wallace is still trying to appease us by having Gen Petraeus on as power player, well guess what Chris it ain’t workin’! We want Tony back and we want him now!!
By the way “P” your analysis is sheer brilliance once again way to go! Hope your eye is better.
8 posted on 09/15/2007 3:18:29 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Phsstpok

Excellent. A very good read. Ping is always welcomed.

9 posted on 09/15/2007 6:51:45 PM PDT by Chuck54 (Many/most Democrats hope for America to lose in Iraq. I pray for America to win.)
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