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“Import Indian grooms for Russian brides"-falling birth rates
The Hindu ^ | Wednesday, Sep 12, 2007 | Vladimir Radyuhin

Posted on 09/11/2007 11:04:45 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

“Import Indian bridegrooms for Russian brides”

Vladimir Radyuhin

New Russian magic mantra to reverse alarming fall in the country’s birth rate

MOSCOW: Desperate to reverse a steep decline in their numbers, Russians are coming up with some bold ideas on how to overcome Russia’s demographic crisis.

A Russian feminist has proposed a radical solution to the falling birth rate — importing Indian bridegrooms for Russian girls. Maria Arbatova, writer and TV moderator, who married an Indian businessman a few years ago “after 25 years of keeping marrying Russians”, thinks Indian men make ideal husbands.

“They are crazy about their family and children,” she said presenting her new book, ‘Tasting India’, here. “What is more, Indians, like Russians, are Indo-Europeans, and many Sanskrit and Russian words have the same roots.”

Indian bridegrooms can help ward off a Chinese demographic invasion in Russia, says the feminist: “If we do not balance off the Chinese with Indians, Africans or aliens, by 2050 China will annex Russia’s Siberia up to the Ural Mountains.”

Russia has a population of 142 million spread across a territory five times the size of India. Its population is shrinking at one-third of a million a year. Under a federal programme launched this year, women who give birth to a second or subsequent child are given certificates worth $10,000, which can be used for education, mortgage or pensions. Monthly support payments to young mothers have been raised from $28 to $60. Afraid that the Government measures are not enough, the Governor of Ulyanovsk has suggested his own way of getting Russian couples to have more babies.

This Wednesday, Ulyanovsk residents will enjoy an extra day off work that the Governor decreed to give them more time to produce babies. The holiday, officially called “Family Contact Day”, was quickly renamed by locals as “Day of Conception”. That day the people will be invited to join a festival, “I Love You”, while teams of gynaecologists, midwives and psychologists will fan out to all parts of the region to advise women on having babies.

September 12 has been chosen for the new holiday so that babies conceived that day may be born on June 12, Russia’s National Day. Couples who hit the target date win prizes, including refrigerators, TV sets and washing machines. The main prize is an Ulyanovsk-built all-terrain vehicle called Patriot.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: china; demographics; india; russia
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1 posted on 09/11/2007 11:04:47 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

China has the problem of way too many men (due in part to the one baby per couple rules). I wonder why they don’t go to the Philippines, Malaysia, etc and import willing brides for the young Chinese bachelors?


2 posted on 09/11/2007 11:09:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson is our next president! http://www.Fred08.com)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I don’t know how well this is going to work. It reminds me of our welfare system. Women having babies is not going to save Russia, people having families will.


3 posted on 09/11/2007 11:09:32 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Understanding the motivations of a victimizer does not exonerate or justify them.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

‘Tasting India’

LOL! I don’t want to know.


4 posted on 09/11/2007 11:11:16 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The males are a bunch of worthless shiftless sots.They have n’t changed since the Stalin Era! It’s a Genetic thing.


5 posted on 09/11/2007 11:15:24 PM PDT by Jan Hus
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To: sukhoi-30mki
“If we do not balance off the Chinese with Indians, Africans or aliens

Don't even think about it


6 posted on 09/11/2007 11:19:29 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Looks like even Russian women don’t seem to think much of Chinese men...or is this pure racism? Having lived in China for a few years, I can imagine why no one except Chinese women would be caught dead with Mainland men.

Putin, are you listening?

But then, given the inherent racism that is so rampant in Russia, what makes Indian men more acceptable than Chinese, Africans and (sniggering) ALIENS, I really wonder.

Looks like Indians are fast turning into the world’s favorite Immigrant group.


7 posted on 09/11/2007 11:32:52 PM PDT by MimirsWell
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To: sukhoi-30mki

...excellent idea! ...for starting a war with the new fascist Russia.


8 posted on 09/11/2007 11:38:27 PM PDT by familyop (U.S cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been, will write Duncan Hunter in)
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To: MimirsWell

>>>Looks like Indians are fast turning into the world’s favorite Immigrant group.<<<

If they’d discover deodorant... Geez, if you thought the French were bad...


9 posted on 09/11/2007 11:39:01 PM PDT by CheyennePress (There's Such a Lot of World...)
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To: MimirsWell

China doesn’t want all of the extra males it has, and it certainly doesn’t want any of them to get married and reproduce. It wants them to perform useful work and then die childless and as young as possible. So importing brides from somewhere else isn’t going the solve their man surplus. If Mao were still around, he’d probably make them all do forced labor until they died.

And Russia doesn’t want to import the extra males from China because they are fearful of losing their East to China. They already have an exploding muslim population, so that only leaves India as a regional source of men.


10 posted on 09/11/2007 11:41:16 PM PDT by KingKenrod
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
China has the problem of way too many men (due in part to the one baby per couple rules). I wonder why they don’t go to the Philippines, Malaysia, etc and import willing brides for the young Chinese bachelors?

Incomes in China are lower than those in the other countries mentioned. And Chinese incomes are only a tad higher than those in Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam. The problem in China isn't too many males - it's too many dirt-poor males making $25 a month down on the family farm. (Middle class Chinese males have no problem finding prospects - it's the peasants in isolated villages who can't find wives. And there's a lot of isolated villages, given that almost 70% of China is agrarian). Many of them will live with and support their parents until they pass on, by which time these bachelors will be too old to get married.

11 posted on 09/12/2007 12:34:45 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FYI, middle class Chinese are the ones making $125 a month down in the big city. These incomes are still lower than in the countries you mentioned.


12 posted on 09/12/2007 12:36:30 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: sukhoi-30mki

In Russia they pay 10,000 for a child... in China they KILL any extra children.

WTF...


13 posted on 09/12/2007 12:38:37 AM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
1 million children in orphanages in this country. They're not "little criminals", as Russian tv labels them, and they're not the children of gulag prisoners anymore.

I once spent an entire day in Moscow asking women why they only had 2 children. Those kvartera need more bedrooms.

14 posted on 09/12/2007 12:43:20 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Can we send them surplus Mexican Nationals who have invaded the US illegal aliens on lend-lease?

Sorry, did not want to be branded a 'Raza-ist'.

15 posted on 09/12/2007 1:19:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
How can she be sure that Indian men would want to marry Russian women?

They'll be certainly expecting family-inclined position from the supposed brides like no working for hire.

They won't find enough candidates in any noticeable q-ty.

16 posted on 09/12/2007 3:17:59 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (The barbarian)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I wonder why they don’t go to the Philippines, Malaysia, etc and import willing brides for the young Chinese bachelors?

Because, unlike Russia, China does not have a shrinking population problem.

17 posted on 09/12/2007 3:34:11 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: MarMema
1 million children in orphanages in this country. They're not "little criminals", they're not the children of gulag prisoners anymore.

That's true.

Russian tv labels them

Such statement makes an anware person think that Russian TV intentionally lies about those children. That's not so. On the other hand orphanage children do tend to be engaged in criminal activities due to natural reasons: poverty, poor orphanage keeping, social background.

I once spent an entire day in Moscow asking women why they only had 2 children. Those kvartera need more bedrooms.

Sure. They will say you that. The problem is whether its exclusive. Majority of Russians (women as well as men) just don't want to have many children - they want childless lifestyle. The same attitude is in the Western Europe and in the USA among whites. Official US stats says a there are 1.9 children per a white female in the USA.

18 posted on 09/12/2007 3:39:55 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (The barbarian)
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To: MarMema
Kvartera = apartment. Thanks for throwing in a Russian word. I took Russian 20 years ago and recently bought the Rosetta Stone language online software. I hope to one day be fluent in Russian. Fortunately for me my new neighbor is Ukrainian so I hope to lose some pride and start trying to converse with him in Russian.
19 posted on 09/12/2007 3:47:11 AM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Freelance Warrior

True. Russians are nice looking till they hit 30. The transition from a HOTTTT 20 something to a Walrus of a Babushka is scary to say the least.

Besides..met very few genuinely nice Russians. A lot of them were just plain hostile. Some of the polite ones had their racially superior stereotypes.

Lots of Siberian ho’s in China. They re the only “westerners” the Chinese men are confident approaching.


20 posted on 09/12/2007 3:53:32 AM PDT by MimirsWell
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