Posted on 09/11/2007 5:59:17 PM PDT by Stoat
Sorry it took so long, but I had to study post 37 for a few minutes just to make sure I understood. LOL
Interensting comments... I’ll give that some thought. Thank you.
Ok I'll give you baked meat pies. But alcoholism and hot tennis stars were NOT invented in Russia. The Russians perfected depressing literature but the Greeks invented it.
Given the same amount of time we'd have improved on our first atom bombs and made them much more lethal, or damaging, or whatever.
Time marches on and science progresses.
Bless you.
Not to mention the world’s largest microchips, and largest laptop computer! Five people are required to carry the laptop!
MOAB-SKI....
The MOAB has 21,000lb = 10.5 tons of HE. The Russian thing has only 7 tons but claims the effect of 11 tons = 22,000 lb of TNT.
I can promise that the MOAB’s 10.5 tons packs a LOT more than that...
Who’s your daddy?
Is this one bigger than the Czar Bomba?
Well, the MOAB also includes some type of special metal casing that vaporizes and enhances the shockwave (saw it on the military channel). Think a big wall moving at supersonic speed. That shockwave can do some amazing things. For example, if dropped near a tunnel entrance, even a LONG one, anyone in that tunnel will be turned to goo. If airburst, that shockwave will create significant seismic effects. I’m sure there are other effects/uses.
Tsar (Czar) Bomba is a nuke — this is conventional, a firecracker compared to a nuke. ALL conventional bombs are firecrackers compared to real nukes, even the first ones.
In any case, I'd class it as a genuine "WMD"...
Hiroshima had 1000 times more raw energy, plus, lots of it was penetrating radiation and thermal, not just blast. And even given that, got ~30% lethality within 3 miles.
I’m familiar with FAB and therbobaric physics. Even an enhanced thermobaric with a CL-20 core and ethylene oxide load won’t match that, at 11 tons TNT eq.
The Russian bomb is only a little bigger than our MOAB.
Sorry, they are making the lethality numbers up. Makes sense; you want your enemies to be frightened of your capabilities.
That’s why I put in the 30% at 1.6 mile radius, because I wasn’t sure what they meant.
So they still are claiming better performance, even if you consider a 3.2 mile diameter.
Yeah, it’s a fearsome weapon, but any 11 ton bomb would be.
Maybe they can test it on some Chechnyan Islamo-Fascists.
In the last 1000 years years, the only meaningful period in history insofar as it benefially affects the entire world.
So, you want to compare the combustibles, not the energy release to determine lethality from suffocation in a given period of time, which is what? ~ something like 5 minutes maybe.
Buildings and human bodies are going to burn more slowly than gasoline. Keep that in mind as you do your comparisons.
Also, assume the Russians have improved on the performance of the device since our last announced attainments. We may also have improved the MOAB, but who's saying anything?
Using the “2,000 yard ‘blast area’”, (clearly a diameter) by the arrow in their graphic, that is only a 1.14 mile diameter — or a 0.57 mile radius. As you say — something definitely does not compute...
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