9/11 Conspiracy Theories Gain Ground, Study Finds

CNSNews ^ | September 11, 2007 | Matt Purple

[msnpatriot]

A little bit of research on Pearl Harbor you will find out the Republicans investigated FDR all through and after the war for conspiracy. They were serious, and it was reported that ‘Breakthrough witnesses’ usually radio code people were bought off or intimidated to change their statements of what they saw and heard. I once was in a hobby store and there was a group of Pearl Harbor veterans there. They all said it was obvious at the time FDR had foreknowledge. They explained to me that they knew because of buddies and acquaintances and what they said and told them.

A good book on this is ‘Day Of Deceit’ The author is featured in a History Channel piece that explains all this.

Another good book is the one on the American Ambassador to Japan, and his involvement with the Japanese and FDR.

I believe FDR planned and took advantage of the attack, and German intelligence claims they broke the code for ease-dropping on FDR and Churchill's scrambled phone conversations all through the war. They claim Churchill told FDR about the coming attack, and that his intelligence was ‘good’ that it would happen.

On 9/11 I don’t know, it’s too soon to draw conclusions. The next five years will tell alot more on info coming out. I don’t think the JFK conspiracy got going till after Garrison’s trial which was in 69-70?

I think 9/11 will eventually at least be the govt letting it happen, it’s very odd that Clinton didn’t do something about OBL when he was offered to him. It’s also possible he was told to not get him by intel.

Will be interesting to learn more in time.

***”My fear is that Bush and 9/11 will become like Roosevelt and Pearl Harbor. It’s pretty much taken as given by so many Americans that Roosevelt knew about the attacks, but let them proceed so that he could get the U.S. into WWII. It’s as if it is just common knowledge.

I’m afraid that 50 years from now people will take it as common knowledge that Bush new about 9/11, but let it happen so that he could get the U.S. into wars with Iraq and Afghanistan.”***

[Names Ash Housewares]

“You’re not trying to say the moon landings were real are you?”

I am going to bring back all the junk they left up there as scrap and sell it! ;)

[nicmarlo]

God bless America....and all the families who still grieve their loss.

[potlatch]

Bump to that, nic!!

[OESY]

You have written several illuminating essays, which I am only beginning to assimilate, coupled with relevant links, such as this on the Frankfurt School: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School. I reference it because I was intrigued by their chart (below).




However, as you allude, I had thought the Deconstructionism of Derrida, Heidegger and Levinas, would have played a more prominent role in destroying the institutions of western civilization, such as the family, church, school, military, political authority, etc. It was my impression the ability to change the intrinsic or traditional meaning of words in order to superimpose stereotypes or interpretations favorable to a particular zeitgeist was a critical tool. I have seen the pernicious effects of the Frankfurt School on American society without fully appreciating its origins. I shall pursue this investigation. Thanks for opening the door.

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[presidio9]

Don’t forget a month of Bush’s first 8 months was spent dealing with the spy plane that was forced to land on Chinese sovereign territory. Plus, there was Gary Condit, and then all of those shark attacks in the summer of 2001.

[007girl]

but...but Mos Def says Bush brought down the towers!

I would post the link to the video but it will just piss everyone off! :]

[Amalie]

Is it pathological or just pathetic? This is a very sad commentary on the stupidity of the American public, and a very dangerous viewpoint to be holding in the current era. These are voters...

[RightWhale]

They mention Walter Benjamin as Frankfurt School. Don’t know if he is. Adorno is unreadable, but Benjamin is highly readable and claims to be seeing marx in everything but I don’t know that he is marxian so much as literate.
Derrida was the only Deconstructionist and was pretty well blown out of the water by Gadamer. Do not make more out of this loose association than necessary. Read One-Dimensional Man and then figure out how that sold 300,000 copies.

[DoughtyOne]

I am continually amazed that “progressive” ultimately means trying to turn back the clock to 1917 Russia for those who don’t want to be called liberals anymore.

[soccermom]

LOL! !9.2 % of Republicans? Sounds like the Ron Paul wing of the party!

[soccermom]

“Yeah. George W Bush, the stupidist president to ever live, was smart enough to mastermind an elaborate conspiracy that killed 3,000 people in just a few months.” .....And then forgot to plant the WMD is Iraq! That silly George — always forgetting the details! If he had just planted Iraqis on the airliners in the first place, he wouldn’t have had to plant the WMD anyway!

[ClaireSolt]

I have worried about this, but this gives me comfort. If all you have to do is call people up as in a poll, it would be possible to quickly identify these people. And then......

[KarinG1]

Ancient wisdom (learned from an old movie): Anybody who is going to get you killed is the enemy.

[soccermom]

It doesn’t concern me in the slightest. To paraphrase SouthPark, “25% of Americans are retarded.”

[Swordmaker]

The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s^2 toward the ground.

That a very parochial viewpoint... The acceleration of gravity under the event horizon of a black hole is.. who knows?

But it probably isn't 9.8 Meters per second ² ...

I think the point that the original post was making was that the author of the website was confusing "speed" of gravity with "acceleration" of gravity. Two related but different qualities of motion.

I believe that there are some very smart scientists trying to figure out how to measure the "speed" of gravity (how fast does the effect of the force of gravity propagate?) and others attempting to figure out how to find the "acceleration" of light (if it even has any acceleration!). So far, neither group has had much luck... absent the discovery of gravity waves and a means to create said waves, I doubt we will be able to test for the speed of propagation of gravity.

[OESY]

Max Horkheimer (front left), Theodor Adorno (front right), and Juergen Habermas in the background, right, in 1965 at Heidelberg


This is the list I saw. Beyond it, I’d have to defer to you and the General.

Theodor W. Adorno
Walter Benjamin
Erich Fromm
Jürgen Habermas
Axel Honneth
Max Horkheimer
Siegfried Kracauer
Otto Kirchheimer
Leo Löwenthal
Herbert Marcuse
Oskar Negt
Franz L. Neumann
Franz Oppenheimer
Friedrich Pollock
Alfred Schmidt
Alfred Sohn-Rethel
Karl A. Wittfogel

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[Real Cynic No More]

Uh, acceleration and speed are not the same.

[Real Cynic No More]

Uh, acceleration and speed are not the same.

[Brent88]

Yeah. George W Bush, the stupidist president to ever live, was smart enough to mastermind an elaborate conspiracy that killed 3,000 people in just a few months. BWAHAHAHA! http://www.madmonks.org/~fez/ROFL.jpg