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Vietnam Memorial Wall Defaced This Weekend (September 7-9, 2007)
Eyewitnesses to the damage, Concretebob, Mr. and Mrs. Trooprally ^ | September 9, 2007

Posted on 09/09/2007 6:55:45 PM PDT by tgslTakoma

Mrs. Trooprally called me this evening to tell me that she and her husband, as well as Concretebob, saw damage along almost the entire length of the Vietnam Memorial Wall. They found this damage this morning, when they walked through the area before participating in the September 11th Freedom Walk.

Concretebob was told by a National Park Service employee that the damage was done on Friday night. There was no police report taken or written about the vandalism, apparently. And the damage was still very much there today.

Here are a few of the photos that Mrs. Trooprally took this morning...

This first one is not so noticeable, but as they walked into the center, it got worse.

It seems like a oil that has and acid in it; As you go up the Wall some the names can not be read!!!


It looks like the person who did this walked along The Wall with some type of container, perhaps hidden at their side so that they could squirt the oily substance without being caught in the act.

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The names along the lower part of The Wall appear to have taken the brunt of the damage.

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Because of the reflective nature of The Wall, Mrs. Trooprally had a tough time capturing the extent of the damage. Mr. Trooprally said that the oily substance has discolored the shiny stone, but that it has been absorbed into the more porous area where the names are etched into The Wall.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anarchist; answer; commies; gatheringofeagles; johnkerry; memorialdesecration; ratcrime; sds; sept15org; thewall
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To: muawiyah

>This sort of thing is usually done by someone who is mentally unbalanced, or given to leftwingnut thoughts.<

How about Commie-professor inspired inebriated anti-war college students during initiation night?


461 posted on 09/12/2007 5:56:09 PM PDT by Paperdoll (.........on the cutting edge)
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To: Calling Fox
Your spelling is correct according to my spellcheck
No, once the liquid has penetrated you can only remove it by removing the affected surface.
There are cleaning solutions for removing oil from concrete, but they don't actually "remove" it, only bleach it and carry it deeper into the surface.
Cement, being a man-made material, is suceptible to other man-made materials.
Granite is a natural material.
But anything that eliminates the visual appearence would be good.
The beauty of granite is that it is practically indestructible with solvents or acids.
462 posted on 09/12/2007 9:47:44 PM PDT by concretebob (I'm NOT pro-war, I'm ANTI - TERRORIST)
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To: concretebob

If its Hydrofluoric acid it will etch the stone according to
http://www.findstone.com/othprob.htm
Some will cause color changes.
If the vandal did research the monument may be permanently stained or etched.


463 posted on 09/13/2007 10:12:38 AM PDT by Icorps1970
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To: Icorps1970
Yeah but hydroflouric acid is something you need to be very careful with.
That would be a hoot.
Try to deface the Wall with that, and spill a little on his clothes or skin, wouldn't be hard to find him.
Just listen for the screams.
No Bro, I saw it, I touched it, it's oil.

Quick riddle for ya

Whats wrong with this sentence:
A scientist working in a lab invented a substance which will disolve anything it touched.

464 posted on 09/13/2007 12:40:44 PM PDT by concretebob (If liberals aren't traitors, their only defense at this point is they are incredibly stupid)
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To: tgslTakoma

Patriots and Comrades All:

After several attempts, I was able to contact SGT Booker
of the National Park Service (NPS), to check on the facts
about the defacement of the Vietnam Wall last weekend. He
explained it was a cleaning accident by a Park Ranger and
NOT a defacement as was originally reported by the Vietnam
Veterans of American (VVA). The NPS is regarding this as
an accident instead of an act of vandalism or terrorism.

Our National Commander Patriot Henry Cook III has the
direct phone numbers for SGT Booker of the NPS, and can
verify these facts with him directly. A copy of this
correction is also being sent the VVA for their follow up
and verification. My apology for the error, as sometimes
it is not always possible to reach the NPS immediately.

Any future report of attempted or actual vandalism will
be verified with the NPS in advance, even if that means a
significant delay in reporting the incident.

Yours in Patriotism,

Steve Cobb
Commander
Region I, MOPH
NE/Mid-Atlantic USA
Military Order of the Purple Heart


465 posted on 09/13/2007 3:13:15 PM PDT by mharris88 (compliments of the Patriot Guard Riders www.patriotguard.org)
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To: concretebob

the substance is water and it obviously wasn’t “invented”.

What do I win, Bob??

Pat


466 posted on 09/13/2007 3:26:51 PM PDT by duckbutt ( If you let a smile be your umbrella, then most likely your butt will get soaking wet.)
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To: tgslTakoma; kristinn

Ping to this newbie’s post.


467 posted on 09/13/2007 3:42:54 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: mharris88
"He explained it was a cleaning accident by a Park Ranger and NOT a defacement as was originally reported by the Vietnam Veterans of American (VVA). The NPS is regarding this as an accident instead of an act of vandalism or terrorism."

The beating was not race related,
The swastikas were not a hate crime,
The simtex was just for fireworks,
The mosque does not support terrorism,
Aiding and abetting illegal aliens is not a crime,
I'll respect you in the morning,
Serbia deserved it,
OJ was proven innocent,
And, Santa's elves are really slaves.

468 posted on 09/13/2007 3:58:13 PM PDT by norton
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To: tgslTakoma

Have the park police questioned Jane Fonda????


469 posted on 09/13/2007 4:31:43 PM PDT by tmredneck
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To: mharris88; Admin Moderator
Thanks for the ping, Admin moderator.

MHarris88, this email has already been retracted by the writer (Steve Cobb), who was, apparently, the victim of misinformation.

See this email:

Retraction of All Statements on Incident

To All:

Since it is now clear that SGT Steven Booker is not an Official spokesman for the National Park Service (NPS), it is necessary to retract any and all statements citing him as a source on any "cleaning accident" at the Vietnam Wall earlier this week. His phone numbers have been given to all Patriots and Eagles who asked for such information for their independent verification of what happened. This retraction also includes any earlier statements from the Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA), and other sources, on what actually happened at the Vietnam Wall. Instead, I will rely on the results of ongoing investigations of the National Park Police (NPP), plus the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund, and independent investigations by autonomous news media sources such as the Washington Times and FOX News. Their reports will be conclusive for me on what actually happened.

I will also rely on the statement of Lisa Gough, Director of Communications for the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund, who stated in her press release of Sept. 11, 2007: "The United States Park Police has begun an investigation into the matter, and that investigation is ongoing. Until this investigation is completed, it is premature to speculate whether any intentional act was committed." An additional source of reliance will be the Washington Times, with any follow up stories from their news article of Sep 11 on "Vandals feared at memorial," as cited in previous E-mail messages.

Like many of you, I have my suspicions on what actually happened at the Vietnam Wall, but I prefer not to comment further on any statements from any party of interest on this issue. There was also a similar incident reported to have happened to a Vietnam Wall in Andover, MA, published on Sep 5, 2007, which has been reported in a previous message with the full source included. This was confusing to me, and was shared in an attempt to learn what actually happened, when, and where.

This statement is also sent to Military Order of the Purple Heart (MOPH) members who are not on the national level as blind copies, in order to protect their privacy after several asked not to be included openly in this issue. Thank you for your consideration of my comments and observations.

Yours in Patriotism,

Steve Cobb
Commander
Region I, MOPH

470 posted on 09/13/2007 4:38:01 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: duckbutt

No it’s not...The answer is he couldn’t have, because he doesn’t have anything to put it in.


471 posted on 09/13/2007 6:26:05 PM PDT by concretebob (If liberals aren't traitors, their only defense at this point is they are incredibly stupid)
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To: digger48

Since you know who did it you should turn them or yourself in.


472 posted on 09/13/2007 8:57:47 PM PDT by USAmerican
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To: digger48

The troops should most defiantly stay.


473 posted on 09/13/2007 8:57:48 PM PDT by USAmerican
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To: rlmorel

Heh.

On second examination, the opil trails look like a hill instead of some random pattern (as would be the case of a drip). This seems to indicate and intentional splash pattern.

But don’t quote me on that. I just watched CSI a lot. I’ll wait for the people who actual;ly know what the hell they are doing. :)


474 posted on 09/14/2007 12:30:51 AM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: USAmerican

These pictures show it was clearly a cleaning accident. Granted, I wouldn't have used a screwdriver to clean the monument, but hey, that's just me. If it wasn't a cleaning accident, I am pretty sure it was done by one of those Freepers or Eagles in order to cast aspersions on the patriotic Americans who only want the best for our military and our country. You know...the folks like these:

For the purposes of propriety, I will leave out the picture of the protestor defecating on a burning American flag. I am sure he just really had to go.

Do you detect a note of sarcasm here? Good, I hope so. It is time we name the obvious. Ann Coulter says it best in her book "Treason". Not one passage...the entire book.

475 posted on 09/14/2007 4:09:24 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: tgslTakoma

Obviously, if there are guards they do not patrol often enough, or actually care. I wonder if they would allow vets to patrol the “Veteran” monuments?


476 posted on 09/15/2007 7:10:50 AM PDT by jorbgb
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Will we meekly bow to PC and allow a communist revolution to win in the takeover of our nation? Will we meekly cower and be careful with what we say so that we don’t offend anyone, or get in trouble? As we worry about not over-reacting, we have a domestic enemy that is hell bent on destroying our culture, our history and our nation. If they win, you will lose your freedom. Your children and grandchildren will not be free. Can’t you see what is going on? The destruction of our culture and our nation? The left controls the media to brainwash us. They control Hollywood to brainwash us. They control our schools and colleges to brainwash and indoctrinate.They control the courts and much of the government. At what point do we rise and fight? Are you willing to just die without a fight? Are you willing to give your nation to them? To guarantee your children and grandchildren will live under them? With socialism or communism? When will you stand my friends? When will be rise and destroy this enemy within? They aren’t going to leave, they will continue. Do nothing and they win.
477 posted on 09/15/2007 8:08:47 PM PDT by Don1000
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To: jimtorr
The scum who did this will probably be caught. They can seldom refrain from bragging about it to their nutroot buddies.

Then he, or she, or they, should not only be criminally charged, but made to reimburse the taxpayer $$$ for the damage--that should keep them locked up and impoverished for several lifetimes.

You'll get no zero tolerance arguments from this on this one. Desecrating the people's property should be a felony, if it's not already.

478 posted on 09/16/2007 11:48:32 AM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: tgslTakoma

These stains don’t appear to have anything to do with the protesters. Please look at the photos below—taken months before and easily found on the web—that show the same stains.

I’d guess it has more to do with rude and disrespectful kids eating or drinking soda while they viewed the wall. You’ve also got to wonder why they Parks Dept hasn’t cleaned this crap up in over three years!!

Taken August 18, 2007: http://www.flickr.com/photos/whartz/1398983769/

Taken December 4, 2004: http://www.flickr.com/photos/58353992@N00/1392483115/

Taken December 7, 2004: http://www.flickr.com/photos/58353992@N00/1392483115/

Stock photo, date unknown (look under the last two letters of “iStockphoto”: http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3049778/2/istockphoto_3049778_vietnam_war_memorial.jpg


480 posted on 09/21/2007 9:03:02 AM PDT by Syncboy
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