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Ben Stein: Gestapo Tactics Got Larry Craig
NewsMax ^ | 4 September 07 | NewsMax

Posted on 09/04/2007 7:48:46 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast

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To: dsc

“same-sex attraction disorder”
——interesting “concept”, if one can call it that.
sort of like “attention-deficit disorder” but with weird sex thrown in, just for the sake of argument!. I will admit it’s not “normal” by the most obvious standards, but I don’t know what we’re saying when we say that. Not much.
Call it a disorder all you want, it’s been around as long as heterosexuality, and will continue on till the end of time, getting worse in its public expressions, if people like you have anything to say about it. See, it’s people like you who bring out the worst kinds of in-your-face behavior in gay people. But that’s what you want.
I don’t believe you’ve ever known any gay people. Have you?


301 posted on 09/06/2007 10:14:01 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Sorry Ben, but Larry Craig got Larry Craig. No one will ever be able to convince me that a United States Senator “accidentally” plead guilty to something like this. He plead guilty because he really was cruising the men’s room.

He might have been a reliably conservative perv, but he’s still a perv.


302 posted on 09/06/2007 10:16:11 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: supremedoctrine

“interesting “concept”, if one can call it that.”

It’s a disorder. You know it.

“Call it a disorder all you want, it’s been around as long as heterosexuality”

And you know this...how? That strikes me as a remarkable statement of dogma based on nothing more than wishful thinking.

“and will continue on till the end of time”

Most likely. However, the problem waxes and wanes in its severity.

“getting worse in its public expressions”

Only to a point. Eventually, sanity will prevail.

“See, it’s people like you who bring out the worst kinds of in-your-face behavior in gay people.”

Right, blame their hideous conduct on those who are repelled by it. That sort of irrationality is typical of those on your side of the argument.

By the way, there are no “gay” people. There are only people who suffer from same-sex attraction disorder.

“That’s what you want.”

No, I want people to stop preaching that SSAD is a good thing. I want people who suffer from this disorder to get help. And I want to minimize its incidence by minimizing their contact with the young.

“I don’t believe you’ve ever known any gay people. Have you?”

I have known many people who suffer from same-sex attraction disorder.


303 posted on 09/07/2007 12:08:57 AM PDT by dsc (There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. Edmund Burke)
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To: thefactor

I think we are at an impasse. But it’s been an interesting debate. Have a great weekend. I plan to rest up! :)
susie


304 posted on 09/07/2007 5:01:54 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea
he pleaded guilty to disturbing the peace in order to sweep the entire thing under the rug! This is your opinion, which is fine, but that doesn't make it a fact. You don't KNOW why he did it, you are simply speculating.

Really?

He doesn't ask the police officer how he can make this 'all go away'?

There is no speculation at all on this.

In fact, he did not even turn the papers in until Aug., so it is not like he panicked at that moment.

He had plenty of time before filing the plea in order to reconsider and fight the charges.

He just hoped that it would be the end of it.

Stop defending the indefensible, like the liberals do!

305 posted on 09/08/2007 9:00:12 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration

You can insult me all you want, but using the liberal card, like using the race card pretty much means you’re an immature debater.
Your opinion on why he did what he did is just that. Your opinion. And I don’t know you well enough to know if your opinion is worth a hoot.
susie


306 posted on 09/08/2007 1:59:13 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Salvation

yes


307 posted on 09/09/2007 3:47:31 PM PDT by Pencil
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To: CharlesWayneCT

except for breach of the peace


308 posted on 09/09/2007 3:48:24 PM PDT by Pencil
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To: brytlea
You can insult me all you want, but using the liberal card, like using the race card pretty much means you’re an immature debater. Your opinion on why he did what he did is just that. Your opinion. And I don’t know you well enough to know if your opinion is worth a hoot. susie

What part of 'pleading guilty' do you not understand?

This was no 18yr old kid, this was a sitting U.S. senator, who had ample time to reconsider his plea agreement before filing it.

So stop trying to twist the facts

309 posted on 09/10/2007 3:42:39 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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