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Who Are We, Who Are Our Enemies - The Cost of Historical Amnesia
http://globalpolitician.com/articledes.asp?ID=3365&cid=12&sid=113 ^

Posted on 08/30/2007 10:04:51 AM PDT by kronos77

Apart from being a clear-cut example of how migration, or rather population dumping by Third World countries, has become a tool for blackmail in the 21st century, this is a throwback to the age when Tripoli could extract payments from Europe.

Sadly, Americans seem to have forgotten the lessons from this proud chapter in their history, when they refused to pay ransom to Muslims like the Europeans did and instead sent warships to the Mediterranean under the slogan "Millions for defense, not one penny for tribute!" Since WW2, we've had three major conflicts in the Balkans: In Cyprus, in Bosnia and in Kosovo. On all three occasions, the United States have interfered on behalf of Muslims. Yet despite this fact, two of the 9/11 hijackers said that their actions were inspired by an urge to avenge the suffering of Muslims in Bosnia.

As Efraim Karsh, author of the book Islamic Imperialism: A History points out, America is reviled in the Muslim world not because of its specific policies "but because, as the pre-eminent world power, it blocks the final realization of this same age-old dream of a universal Islamic empire (or umma)."

According to Hugh Fitzgerald, "One must keep in mind both the way in which some atrocities ascribed to Serbs were exaggerated, while the atrocities inflicted on them were minimized or ignored altogether. But what was most disturbing was that there was no context to anything: nothing about the centuries of Muslim rule.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: balkans; bosnia; islam; jihaad; kosovo; whereisdhimmwit; wot; wrongside

1 posted on 08/30/2007 10:04:53 AM PDT by kronos77
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/30/2007 10:06:27 AM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77; ma bell

I smell a Dhimmi about to go into apoplexy.

Either that or he’s burned the pancakes again.


3 posted on 08/30/2007 10:17:40 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: kronos77
Alija Izetbegovic also received money from a Saudi businessman, Yassin al-Kadi, who has been designated by the United States, the United Nations, and the European Union as a financier of al-Qaeda terrorists. Evan F. Kohlmann, author of Al-Qaeda's Jihad in Europe: The Afghan-Bosnian Network, argues that the "key to understanding Al Qaida's European cells lies in the Bosnian war of the 1990s." In 1992, the Bosnian Muslim government of Alija Izetbegovic issued a passport in the Vienna embassy to Osama bin Laden. The Wall Street Journal reported in 2001 that "for the past 10 years, the most senior leaders of al Qaeda have visited the Balkans, including bin Laden himself on three occasions between 1994 and 1996. The Egyptian surgeon turned terrorist leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri has operated terrorist training camps, weapons of mass destruction factories and money-laundering and drug-trading networks throughout Albania, Kosovo, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Turkey and Bosnia.

This paragraph screams out loud but Western stupidity drowns it out. Gives new meaning to the phrase "deaf & dumb".

4 posted on 08/30/2007 10:23:40 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: kronos77

Sending aid of any kind... to any Muslim nation is jizya, letting them come to our universities (or come here period), is submission. Prayer and footbaths only for Muslims? Military Installation building a mosque? Countries all around the world with the same problem... while the press doesn’t report it, PC flip it or lie to push their agenda.
It’s not just Iraq... that’s what I can’t get in anyone’s head that views the idiot box. When will they learn?

The blinders are on. Until they open their eyes and ears (they give speeches all over the world... and here in OUR language, telling you what they plan to do), we will go the way of Rome.

As for me and my house, not without a fight.

Case in point, Al Farooq Mosque in Brooklyn. Why is it still there with all the terror of the past decade and more? If you get videos out of that mosque that calls for death to any citizen in any country... shut them down, that’s beyond church, state or anything (face it, the Quran has both together... so it fits, and we know there have been weapons caches in the mosque here before).
If no muslim or ‘moderate’ is speaking out against what is ‘supposed to be’ the bastardization of their religion... they need to go. If you can’t speak out and are afraid of death is the US of A and haven’t rethought your worship... you need to go, period.

On Sept. 9th is the Muslim Day Parade in NYC, Keith Ellison (he of swearing in for the ceremonial on Jefferson’s Quran, though not one reporter questioned, revealed or let him know why Jefferson had it). I’m sure, like last year, the Brotherhood/Islamic Thinkers will spout hate and death to America while burning flags again. You know what? I can’t get one response from this area of those who will go to counter should that happen again... This in the city of the World Trade Towers.

I take every opportunity to show those of the open, liberal, PC position what they do in Iran, Thailand and all Muslim countries to free press, homosexuals, women... crickets, no response. I bring up the strikes at plants for prayer times, the cab drivers, the cashiers, the schools... nada. Those who would beat Judaism and Christianity into the ground (with the ACLU of course), help them. Don’t get me started on the lawsuits going.

It must be prophecy, nothing else makes sense. If all the countries who are fighting terrorism right now stood up together... it would be squashed.

I call for the Ferdinand and Isabella treatment. Sure they have some issues in Spain now... but look how long it took.

Tangent off/


5 posted on 08/30/2007 10:42:16 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Today's stolen graphics courtesy of: http://arewelumberjacks.blogspot.com/)
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To: kronos77

Thanks for posting. fjordman is OUTSTANDING!


6 posted on 08/30/2007 10:49:13 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: AliVeritas

Well stated. BTTT!


7 posted on 08/30/2007 10:51:17 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: kronos77
“...Americans seem to have forgotten ..., when they refused to pay ransom to Muslims like the Europeans did and instead sent warships to the Mediterranean under the slogan “Millions for defense, not one penny for tribute!” Since WW2, we’ve had three major conflicts in the Balkans: In Cyprus, in Bosnia and in Kosovo. On all three occasions, the United States have interfered on behalf of Muslims. Yet despite this fact, two of the 9/11 hijackers said that their actions were inspired by an urge to avenge the suffering of Muslims in Bosnia.

As Efraim Karsh, author of the book Islamic Imperialism: A History points out, America is reviled in the Muslim world not because of its specific policies “but because, as the pre-eminent world power, it blocks the final realization of this same age-old dream of a universal Islamic empire (or umma).”

According to Hugh Fitzgerald, “One must keep in mind both the way in which some atrocities ascribed to Serbs were exaggerated, while the atrocities inflicted on them were minimized or ignored altogether. But what was most disturbing was that there was no context to anything: nothing about the centuries of Muslim rule.”

Excellent! Great piece.

Also, if you really know your history, you will remember that up through the 19th century Russians were fighting Turks... That was a real shooting and killing fight. In one way or another the Russian fight against Islam was the perpetual background to other Russo European political and military history of the 19th century.

8 posted on 08/30/2007 10:55:43 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: kronos77
America is reviled in the Muslim world not because of its specific policies "but because, as the pre-eminent world power, it blocks the final realization of this same age-old dream of a universal Islamic empire (or umma)."

This should be printed in large letters and pasted on every billboard in America!

The plain, simple, unvarnished truth is a Good Thing.

9 posted on 08/30/2007 10:58:59 AM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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To: kronos77

btt


10 posted on 08/30/2007 11:43:32 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: kronos77

My favorite line:

In a commentary, “We bombed the wrong side?” former Canadian UNPROFOR Commander Lewis MacKenzie wrote, “The Kosovo-Albanians have played us like a Stradivarius. We have subsidized and indirectly supported their violent campaign for an ethnically pure and independent Kosovo. We have never blamed them for being the perpetrators of the violence in the early ‘90s and we continue to portray them as the designated victim today in spite of evidence to the contrary. When they achieve independence with the help of our tax dollars combined with those of bin Laden and al-Qaeda, just consider the message of encouragement this sends to other terrorist-supported independence movements around the world.”


11 posted on 08/30/2007 1:24:17 PM PDT by griswold3 (Al queda is guilty of hiraba (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: griswold3

The Kosovo/Bosnia action is an example of how the left reveres using force TO THE DETRIMENT OF AMERICAN NATIONAL INTERESTS.

That’s why they had no problem with it - there was no gain for America in taking this action.


12 posted on 08/30/2007 1:27:31 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: kronos77

Good find. Thanks!


13 posted on 08/30/2007 1:47:41 PM PDT by Dragonfly
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To: kronos77

Bump for later reading!


14 posted on 08/30/2007 2:12:45 PM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: AliVeritas

You make eminent sense. I understand and share your frustration. We in the West need several millions like you to spread the truth about what is happening.


15 posted on 08/30/2007 2:17:40 PM PDT by Blennos (High Point, NC)
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To: AliVeritas

I’m with you. Sooner or later we’re going to have to do things Ferdinand and Isabella style.


16 posted on 08/30/2007 2:21:25 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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