[listenhillary]

What did Reagan used to say “Trust but verify”? Seems he ignored his own advice in thinking it would be a one time amnesty.

I would perceive it being a judgment call with not the best judgment used by GWB.

We need the labor, we need the new taxpayers and having the newly made citizen’s vote wouldn’t hurt either. It was mis-guided and was oblivious to how the conservatives felt about the issue.

Immediately deporting 12 million people out of the US isn’t feasible. I refuse to defend GWB and the administration faking out everyone last year about building a border. They were working for a solution. It’s too bad the effort for a secure border didn’t begin in 2001.
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A new thread on Ron Paul I’d like to see is “Ron Paul is elected President of the USA. Now what?”

We have the majority of the Democrats, a majority of the Media and about 1/3 of elected Republicans that would be in favor of shutting down the government before passing a “constitutionally authorized” budget.

How long will that last?

[George W. Bush]

We have the majority of the Democrats, a majority of the Media and about 1/3 of elected Republicans that would be in favor of shutting down the government before passing a “constitutionally authorized” budget.

It sounds like heaven to me. Unfortunately, it would result in mere across-the-board freezes. But in an 8-year term, it would result in very significant reduction in spending as inflation and attrition nibbled at those agencies and the private sector responded to such a positive development. Essentially, this is what Newt was doing in the Nineties until he lost his courage on showdowns with the Bent One.

How long will that last?

As long as possible sounds good.