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Sounds like a de facto sanctuary city to me.
Many sanctuary cities have not adopted formal ordinances or resolutions, but in practice just do not make any effort to relate their suspects to immigration status or make overt attempts to cooperate with ICE. Looks like what they are doing in Fresno.
Meanwhile, over on the right side, Hazleton PA has filed an appeal:
http://citizensvoice.com/site/index.cfm?newsid=18748344&BRD=2259&PAG=461
Thats ok - San Jose will be happy to take all those unappreciated illegals off Fresno's hands.
They've got plenty of space in their ER's, property tax money to spare, and the fountain in Cesar Chavez Square has been declared E Coli free (for now).
“You are correct in that our officers do not try to determine a person’s legal status.”
“I do recall many years ago that a decision came from our Council that we would not participate as a city in immigration raids or sweeps ... we would not conduct sweeps or raids for the purpose of rounding up undocumented immigrants.”
“in 1988 there was a proclamation pertaining to amnesty for illegal aliens. “
Illegal immigration is right up there with the most important regional, state and federal issues for me. That being said, I don't expect local police agencies to do sweeps. Sweeps are the job of federal officials.
Local police agencies do have their hands full with local law enforcement. You can't just stop that enforcement to focus on federal law enforcement IMO.
If the Fresno police department does run immigration status checks along with background checks once a person is incarcerated, that's good. Holding the individual for immigration services is good.
This does sound reasonable to me. Good for Fresno. Good for us.
I have pondered what I want an officer to do that finds a person to be an illegal on the street. It's a tough issue.
If there is a pariah on the street (not referring to illegals here), then I do want even illegals to be able to approach the police to get that person off the street. Citizen and illegal alike would be at risk if they didn't. For that reason alone, I am uncomfortable with police checking the status of individuals on the street. Even illegals need to be able to approach the police.
No matter what my feelings are about the legitimacy of illegal aliens being here, I do not want them abused or seriously injured. I simply want them to repatriate themselves to their nation of origion and stop sapping our system dry.
...however, once they are booked into jail efforts are made to determine their legal status and if they are found to be here illegally then Immigration, Customs and Enforcement (ICE) is notified and an "Immigration Hold" is placed on them.
However, we will arrest those who have an outstanding felony warrant for violating immigration laws. That is someone who was deported and then returns and a warrant is issued for their arrest. Again, ICE is brought in on these issues.
Last week a FReeper wrote an Open Letter to Illegal Immigrants that addressed my own sentiments. I’d highly recommend the letter for wide circulation. People must accept the core issues surrounding illegal immigration are not about race.
Please take a moment to read the letter by Philistone http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1882775
The last sentence well summarizes what is at stake:
“Instead of trying to make America resemble the homeland that you fled, why don’t you go back and try to make your homeland resemble the America that you sought.”
This statement is an outright lie. Don't need to read the rest of it.
“You are correct in that our officers do not try to determine a person’s legal status.”
Of course Fresno is a de facto sanctuary city. Everyone knows that! The farmers would go under if it weren’t so. This email makes me mad because it’s full of baloney.
Mayor Alan Autry is on the record that he is against the “sweeps” and that he will not cooperate with the feds.
I don’t know what the solution is but we’re never going to get anywhere if people play fast and loose with the truth.
You know, I’m gonna come right out and say it: The farmers around here LOVE illegal immigration. They eat, sleep and breathe ILLEGAL immigration. And IMO they hate illegals at the same time. Would you treat an American like that - make them work in the 100 degree plus temperatures all day long in stoop labor? Of course not but the farmers have been getting away with it for decades and decades.
And I’m sick of hearing that we need the illegals to do our dirty work for us. That is insulting to Mexicans - like that’s all they’re good for - like they don’t have a brain or any humanity worth protecting.
We need a guest worker program that treats people fairly and with dignity. And if people are willing to do “dirty work” they bloody well should be treated with dignity and paid a decent wage - not exploited like the farmers are doing.
We need a secure border, too, so the gov’t of Mexico will be forced to attend to their own citizens instead of encouraging them to flee over here and be abused and exploited.
This is really making me mad today.
Our Church worked in the vineyard today - we’re volunteers. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has 80 acres of grapes. Church members worked today and our Ward was responsible for picking, laying the grapes on the paper trays - for two rows - and it was in the hundreds. I kept thinking of the Mexican farm laborers, how they do this all the time just to scrape by and they are treated with contempt.
This illegal immigration issue is a disgusting mess and the farmers around here need to stop torturing us with their silly demonic rhetoric.
After we worked all morning in the heat, I was able to come home, take a shower, and rest. I am still recovering and will be sore tomorrow. Every year that I have worked thus, I would be sick for a few days. I feel very proud of my Church and all of my brothers and sisters.
That’s all I have to say.
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