Democrats would have loved the guy. He was their kind of single testicle freak.
"You really like me!"
1937: “The Jews”
2007: “Religious Right”
Same-same.
I'm not going to give a knee jerk reaction to the point you are making (though I could) but I do want to emphasize what you seem to be saying in that last sentence. It is inevitable that the more power a government seizes unto itself the greater that governments desire to marginalize the individual. Sooner or later billboards WILL crop up with nice slogans like, "YOU MUST WORK HARDER FOR THE FATHERLAND".
So, where does that leave Stalin? (Leader of the Union Soviet Socialist Republics) The Hegelian, “dictatorship of the proletariat”. The object of the Reich (after Hitler and ethnic cleansing) was to develop a socialist society made up of “Aryans”. When you swing the social pendulum far enough it comes all the way around.
“Hitler was not a socialist, he was a fascist. “
“We are Socialists, enemies, mortal enemies of the present capitalist economic system with its exploitation of the economically weak, with its injustice in wages, with its immoral evaluation of individuals according to wealth and money instead of responsibility and achievement, and we are determined under all circumstances to abolish this system!”
Guess where the quote came from...
I think Hitler was a little bit of both, personally. He wanted a “perfect” world with no Jews. In other words, he wanted his cake and eat it to. He nearly got what he wished for.
Are you talking about the real world or books? In practice, they come out almost the same.
That is a common misconception, but Hitler wasn't a fascist. A good example of fascism would be Mussolini. Hitler's brand of socialism (national, rather than international) is often confused with fascism because it shares a common national focus (with the "volk" in the case of Nazism).
Other reasons for the confusion is due to the simplistic way most people describe the political spectrum. On the so-called "far right" they place the Nazis (national socialists), in the center they place the "social democrat" moderates, and on the far left they place the communists. The only problem with this model is that every point of the spectrum is some form of authoritarian socialism.
But probably the biggest reason for the confusion is that there really isn't that much difference between socialism and fascism. Both are fundamentally authoritarian systems. When you start following down the path that government is supposed to control the population (whether it be via a complex legal system, gun control, complex tax codes, or some other means) rather than the other way around, you will inevitably arrive at some form of tyrannical government.
'Socialism' is by traditional definition 'government ownership of the means of production', with a traditional example typically being the Soviet Union. Similarly, 'fascism' is by definition 'government control of the means of production', with a typical example being Nazi Germany or Italy under Mussolini.
Hitler was indeed a fascist, but fascism is merely socialism-light in economic terms, and is usually cojoined with a strong component of nationalism.
On 1 May 1927, at the Nazi party congress, Hitler specifically declared that he and the party were socialist. Indeed, he said as much in many speeches, quite a few of which are available on line. As he put it, ''we do not care who may own a factory or a shop; our socialism goes much deeper than simple ownership.'' Definitionally illiterate, of course, but his intent is unmistakable.
Democrats would have loved the guy. He was their kind of single testicle freak.
"You really like me!"
Ah, but he used socialism to promote fascism, which is the whole point. Once you dispense of free market capitalism, which depends on the industry and competition between individuals and is supported by individual economic rights, then one is free to wield industry and society to dictatorial ends.
Except for Stalin, Castro, Chavez, Pol Pot, Chia Dictator, and probably a few others I can't recall.
name one socialist state that is not ruled by a dictator.
Would you say that Chavez of Venezuela or Mugabe of Zimbabwe Socialists?
I think they are dictators using the umbrella of socialism to advance themselves...
Hayek answers this best and definitively. The Road to Serfdom. Check it out.
Can't be according to Dictionary.com
fas·cist–noun 1. a person who believes in or sympathizes with fascism.
2. (often initial capital letter) a member of a fascist movement or party.
3. a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views.
Paging Ron Paul to the Fuhrer Fone! Ron Paul to the Fuhrer Fone! /sarc
Incorrect...
The Fascist Party(Partito Fascista Repubblicano). Italian.
The National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP). German.
Soviet Socialists and National Socialists were the same.
Socialism is not, though it is moving in that directionm from capitalism to communism, according to Marx at least.
Marx was full of crap.
Socialism evolves from feudalism.
Capitalism evolves from Socialism.
Marx had it backward.
Stalin wanted no association made between the Soviet Socialist Republic and the German National Socialists. It was a Stalinist invention to call the NSDAP Fascists, when in fact, the word "fascii" is the Latin rooted Italian that does not translate...
The trusty old Ayn Rand Lexicon (edited by Harry Binswanger) will show this in better detail...
Historically, the National Socialists adopted much symbolism from pagan Rome, along with their hatred of the Jews. The Fascist Party of Mussolini was a natural ally. Many of the Germanic tribes came to Rome, not to destroy it, but to become a part of it...
The NAZIs were pagans, as were the Romans...
The National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP). German.
Soviet Socialists and National Socialists were the same.
stm:Socialism is not, though it is moving in that directionm from capitalism to communism, according to Marx at least.
Marx was full of crap.
Socialism evolves from feudalism.
Capitalism evolves from Socialism.
Marx had it backward.
Stalin wanted no association made between the Soviet Socialist Republic and the German National Socialists. It was a Stalinist invention to call the NSDAP Fascists, when in fact, the word "fascii" is the Latin rooted Italian that does not translate...
The trusty old Ayn Rand Lexicon (edited by Harry Binswanger) will show this in better detail...
Historically, the National Socialists adopted much symbolism from pagan Rome, along with their hatred of the Jews. The Fascist Party of Mussolini was a natural ally. Many of the Germanic tribes came to Rome, not to destroy it, but to become a part of it...
The NAZIs were pagans, as were the Romans...
...where "all the animals are equal, but some are more equal than others"?