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As housing flounders Realtors leave profession
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20378837/ ^ | 8-21-07

Posted on 08/22/2007 5:32:12 AM PDT by Hydroshock

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To: theDentist

It seems to me that when times are tough in real estate that this would be a good time to get into the business. After all, if you can make a living in this environment, when times are good again, you could make tons of money.

Nobody learns much during good times. It’s the hard times that offers the lessons.

Here endeth the lesson. :)


21 posted on 08/22/2007 6:35:05 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit." Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Good times and bad, slow or red hot, established realtor's will ALWAYS make money. Smarter ones buy up properties during good times that they rent out to help supplement their income during the slow times.

By checking the credit scores of the possible RENTERS. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice--shame on me!!!!!!

22 posted on 08/22/2007 6:38:04 AM PDT by BlabItGrabIt (Sly, Shy, and Wry)
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To: RexBeach

Nobody learns much during good times. It’s the hard times that offers the lessons.

Here endeth the lesson. :)


Great! So I’m going back to my old profession of game room and snack consultant for dot.coms!


23 posted on 08/22/2007 6:39:27 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: RexBeach

It would be a better time to try establish a small local agency. The ones in it for the fast buck clear out making some room, and if you’re real lucky one of the older established ones retire and sell out.


24 posted on 08/22/2007 6:40:51 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: BlabItGrabIt
"By checking the credit scores of the possible RENTERS. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice--shame on me!!!!!!

The small town independant guys don't usually do that sort of thing.
Like everything else, you have to be careful. There are plenty of sharks in the water no matter where you are.

25 posted on 08/22/2007 6:46:17 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Hydroshock
I bought my present home about 2 years ago. I paid cash money. As I called Realtors and surfed the net only about 20% called me back. They wouldn’t give me the time of day. I stopped at a local hometown Realtor and a lady in her 60’s said she would find me a home. She was great. Answered all my questions and took care of the little stuff. She got my business. I told her when I sell I’ll be calling on her again. That’s the difference!
26 posted on 08/22/2007 6:46:26 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (All comments now being monitored by BOR. He's looking out for you!)
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To: Hydroshock
haven't seen this scrolling across the screen lately
27 posted on 08/22/2007 7:25:56 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: 4yearlurker
“... when I sell I’ll be calling on her again.”

That was my experience here with a Realtor who was in it for the long haul. She found a nice house (and, as important, a good neighborhood) for me in 1985, and I lived in it for 17 years. When it came time to sell after I married mrs riverdawg, that same Realtor got the listing and the house sold in six weeks. We lived in my wife’s house for nine months, bought another house (again with the help of the same Realtor) and then sold hers before it was formally on the market. Yes, the Realtor made a bunch of money on the four transactions but I can’t imagine them going any smoother. There are times and places where FSBO works just fine for some people, but a perceptive, hard-working seller’s agent usually earns her/his commission - especially in a buyer’s market.

28 posted on 08/22/2007 7:42:08 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: dawn53
There's a sign in our office that reads:

"Dear Lord, PLEASE give us ONE MORE BOOM and we promise not to blow it all this time!"

29 posted on 08/22/2007 8:46:36 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Hydroshock
Bernanky will save us.


BUMP

30 posted on 08/22/2007 8:48:34 AM PDT by capitalist229 (ANDS)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
I am especially wary of the realtor/rental agencies who charge $35.00 for non-refudable credit checks all day long to large numbers of people and only pay $50.00 a year for the service.

How about the Home Owners Associations (HOAs) that charge a $75. setup fee to take 1 minute to modify the home account with the new owners' information?

We charge $35 non-refundable for our time in showing the property, checking credit worthiness and references.

Our commissions earned on rentals is usually less than half of 1 month's rent. The only positive thing that can come out of it is that treating folks honestly and fairly may mean a bonafide purchaser client in the future.

31 posted on 08/22/2007 8:51:55 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: RexBeach
My 1st year in the business (1978), mortgage rates were 11% to 13% fixed.

Ignorance was indeed bliss...as I was "Rookie of the Year" in my Board of Realtors.

32 posted on 08/22/2007 8:58:02 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
IMO, Buyers Agency is a sham.

We're already bound by a strict Code of Ethics to treat all parties fairly.

Buyer Agency is a gimmick to compete with Listing Agents who get paid no matter which one of the other 6,000+ agents in our local Board of Realtors has the buyer.

A strong Listing Agent can lay on the Florida beach...have his cell phone ring and earn income...because ALL agents are actually helping him sell his listing.

Buyer Agency...through a Buyer Broker Agreement...creates a contract that says that buyer cannot buy any home without your buyer agent being involved.

Sunday open houses now see virtually every prospect coming through the home by themselves claiming they are working with an agent.

In the "old days", there was such a thing as "procuring cause" (open house sign, newspaper ad, flyer).

Now an agent can sit on her butt and tell her buyers to visit open houses by themselves..."if you see something you like, call me". It's BS! ;^(

33 posted on 08/22/2007 9:06:40 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: theDentist

“A year or 2 from now, the headline will be ‘As housing soars, people flock to Realty as a profession’”

Only a year or 2? Not according to past trends.


34 posted on 08/22/2007 9:15:12 AM PDT by tabsternager
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To: theDentist

Make that 5 years from now. This is going to be long and bloody. Realtors are going to have to find an honest living.


35 posted on 08/22/2007 12:28:10 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: ex-Texan

ping


36 posted on 08/22/2007 12:29:25 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I think much shorter than that. And realtors are making an honest living. It’s not illegal or immoral to sell a home.


37 posted on 08/22/2007 12:30:57 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: jiggyboy

LOL! The guy who owns the condo I’ve been renting is trying to sell it - I should print this out and leave it on the counter before the next two dozen hungry brokers come in for a tour. ;)


38 posted on 08/22/2007 12:32:04 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Leofl
No offense to you, and I'm sure you're a good realtor, but I must say, most all the realtors I've met and dealt with are no better than used car salesmen. I mean I've caught them in lies, making false statements, and they only have one thing on their minds...Their commission, and will do or say anything to get that commission.

That said, we know realtors have been bailing out of the industry for well over a year now.

39 posted on 08/22/2007 12:35:46 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Hydroshock

FWIW, why isn’t there an e-bay for houses. Why do we have Realtors at all in this modern era? We still need escrow and title companies, but folks who sell homes? Really?

Today, anybody could take a bunch of pictures of their house and write a description and list it on an e-bay style listing and call it “houses for sale.com” or something. Direct buyer to seller and omit the exorbitant 6% commissions we are being gouged.

Sure, Realtors provide very useful information, but that should not cost you 6% of your home’s value, which is often a MUCH higher percentage of your home’s equity. When I sold my home for $124,000 with only $28,000 of equity, that $7,500 RE commission was 25% of my equity!!!! Nice work if you can get it!

Why not have a website where we can list our homes and we can go get an RE consultant for a small fee to help us price the home and advise us what to fix up for the sale, etc. 6% is highway robbery.

So why not? Probably because those 1.3 million remaining Realtors are doing everything in their power to insure it never happens.


40 posted on 08/22/2007 12:37:50 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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