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Can Those with an Invisible Illness Park in the Blue Spots without Others Seeing Red?
Christian News Wire ^ | August 20, 2007 | Lisa Copen

Posted on 08/20/2007 7:41:24 AM PDT by Between the Lines

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To: Between the Lines

Happens to a guy I know all the time. He has been on dialysis for years and just had a kidney transplant. A short walk can wear him out completely, but he looks fit.

Don’t get me started on the “companion” animals that the housewives drag in the stores.


61 posted on 08/20/2007 8:12:12 AM PDT by doodad
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To: sharkhawk
Me, my sister, my uncle and my aunt all take my Mom who has MS out shopping, Does she need 4 cards? How about if she goes out on vacation?

Vacation (rental car) would be an issue, but I don't see the problem with 4 cards. I was just trying to think of a better way than the other guy's suggestion to put the disability on the card, which is a terrible idea IMO.

62 posted on 08/20/2007 8:12:44 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: RGSpincich
"She's not disabled! Or--if she is--she has no right to have a child!"

Add paranoid to her list.

I'd agree with you except that I remember people said exactly that to a minor celebrity -- who had a genetic deformity AND the temerity to have children.

That celebrity is Bree Walker, who used to be an anchorette at several big-market local TV stations. She has severely deformed hands and feet.

(Walker has recently popped into the news as the buyer of Cindy Sheehan's little bit o' Texas property near the Bush ranch. I don't sympathize with Walker's idiotic politics; but she was right to take umbrage at people who indignantly assailed her decision not to abort her children.)

63 posted on 08/20/2007 8:12:46 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: Hacklehead
No one should get a handicapped sticker unless they are in a wheelchair.

So my poor old mother who died from heart failue, and couldn't walk more than a hundred feet or so without chest pain, shouldn't have had a handicap sitcker in the last few months of her life? This has really become a forum for those who don't think.

64 posted on 08/20/2007 8:12:59 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: Between the Lines

Why would someone with a mental illness need a closer parking space? Isn’t this only for people with problem with their legs or mobility? This should not even be an issue. Mental illness does not warrant such a permit


65 posted on 08/20/2007 8:13:18 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Between the Lines

I just hate when an able-bodied person runs to the store in a car with a handicapped permit and parks in HC spots, or when the HC person stays in the car while the able-bodied person goes into the store, while parked in an HC spot.

My brother has a handicapped permit, and we only park in HC parking if the closest spaces are far away from the entrance to the store(or other place).


66 posted on 08/20/2007 8:14:19 AM PDT by Tex Pete
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To: Equality 7-2521

67 posted on 08/20/2007 8:14:25 AM PDT by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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To: from occupied ga

Isn’t that the truth!


68 posted on 08/20/2007 8:14:38 AM PDT by TexasBeth
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To: camle

If a person can run into a store, he/she should not take up a handicap spot, blocking it for somebody who can’t run into the store.

I have a handicap placard. I only use it when I need it. Most of the time I can walk quite nicely. When I can run, I sure won’t park in a handicap spot.


69 posted on 08/20/2007 8:15:43 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: camle

I guess I didn’t make that clear. I gave the information to the registry. They cancelled all the placards of the dead people and retrieved the stolen ones. How they dealt with the ones who gave their permits to others, I don’t know.

One person who was using a stolen placard was given 24 hours to return it by FedEx or their license and the registration of their father’s car (which they were using) was going to be revoked. Needless to say the father was p.o.’d at his son.


70 posted on 08/20/2007 8:16:36 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Coldwater Creek
Bravo for you, because then it would be clear that there was a legitimate reason. Those of us on the outside of this, though, are the ones who see the teenager pull up in a sports car, pop the card from the glove box to the mirror, and walk inside to buy DVD's. I just want every single person who deserves that spot to get it...because it is free of those who would misuse it.

In My Universe, anyone who scammed the system would have to make a public apology for it. Those who are awarded the spaces should be the ones using them.

71 posted on 08/20/2007 8:18:59 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
but the original intent of Handicapped Parking Spaces were to provide additional space to maneuver for those confined to a wheelchair. Not so they could get a closer parking space to the store!

And you produced this "fact" based on what?

72 posted on 08/20/2007 8:19:24 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: Brujo
I lost all respect for the system after the nth time I saw someone zip into a handicapped spot, put up the tag, jump out of the car and run into the mall.

Abuses certainly happen, but even in that scenario, how do you know the driver isn't picking up a disabled passenger?

73 posted on 08/20/2007 8:19:47 AM PDT by Sloth (You being wrong & me being closed-minded are not mutually exclusive.)
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To: petercooper

Of course I shop at Navy Exchanges and DECA a lot, so as well as having to contend with a dozen empty handicapped spaces there are also a multitude of empty Flag, CO, XO, and CMC spaces. Living in military housing, it’s sometimes easier to bring my son’s Radio Flyer and walk to the Commissary—good for me, too.


74 posted on 08/20/2007 8:21:52 AM PDT by Equality 7-2521 ("Ron Paul, the only rational Republican" --BadEye)
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To: from occupied ga

I agree with you. There are lots of forms of disabilites. To get a HC sticker or placard, a patient needs to be medically qualified. Unfortunately, too many of us are Sunday morning quarterback ‘doctors’ who can instantly diagnose another human being within the confines of a parking garage. My thought is- if you are that great of a clinician, set up an office and start seeing patients- otherwise show some tolerance for others, and thank God you don’t walk in a disabled person shoes.


75 posted on 08/20/2007 8:23:01 AM PDT by Cate (Thank God for the USA and our troops!)
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To: Between the Lines

I’m all in favor of letting blind people park in handicapped spots.


76 posted on 08/20/2007 8:24:13 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: Hacklehead
No one should get a handicapped sticker unless they are in a wheelchair. Better yet, since the “handi-capable” demand to be treated like everyone else, eliminate handicapped parking altogether.

You don't know what you are talking about. For your sake, I hope you never find out how stupid that statement is.

77 posted on 08/20/2007 8:27:24 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Build the fence. Enforce the law.)
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To: from occupied ga

“So my poor old mother who died from heart failue, and couldn’t walk more than a hundred feet or so without chest pain, shouldn’t have had a handicap sitcker in the last few months of her life?”

Sorry about your mom, perhaps you should have gotten her a powered chair. I can’t think of too many places other than the post office where you can get something accomplished without walking more than 100 ft. Certainly not the grocery or Walmart.


78 posted on 08/20/2007 8:27:34 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Excessive tolerance will be the death of Western civilization.)
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To: Between the Lines
There's a park in Albuquerque that's the origin of a lot of hiking/mountain-biking trails, with a HC parking space at the beginning of one of the trails, positioned far from anything else a handicapped person might legitimately need access to, such as picnic spots or restrooms.

And Yes, I defend my use of the word "legitimately"; if you're healthy enough to use a hiking trail, you're healthy enough to walk a few more feet through the parking lot.

79 posted on 08/20/2007 8:27:46 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Cate
I agree with you. There are lots of forms of disabilites.

My only problem with handicap spaces is that there are way too many of them. Just one example that I noticed over the weekend. Kohl's deptment store has about 25 of the things. One was in use and when I came out that person had gone. Usually they just sit empty. Whatever idiotic law determines the number that a business has to have must anticipate that every permit holder will call every other one and agree to hit the same stores at the same time. But I make no assumptions about people using them. Up until a couple of weeks before she died my mother didn't look especially unwell - just old.

80 posted on 08/20/2007 8:29:22 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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