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Rudy Hitting His Stride? {abortionist lover]
captains quarters ^ | 8/16/07 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 08/16/2007 6:15:38 PM PDT by bnelson44

Rudy Giuliani got good news earlier this week from a CBS poll that most people have learned to mistrust -- for good reason -- but Rasmussen may provide some corroboration today. According to the normally reliable pollster, Rudy has his first significant lead in head-to-head polling against Hillary Clinton, and the crosstabs show some surprising depth (via Instapundit):

After being virtually tied with Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton for several months, Republican contender Rudy Giuliani now leads Clinton up 47% to 40% in the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

In the match-up of the frontrunners, this result marks a significant shift. For the last three months the two frontrunners have never been further apart than three percentage points. Last month, Giuliani and Clinton were separated by just a single point.

Senator Clinton fares modestly better against former Senator Fred Thompson. Clinton now has a three point edge over him, 46% to 43%. All four previous Clinton-Thomas have also been toss-ups.

It's significant that neither top 50% in the poll. Eight percent insist on voting for another candidate, even when the question gets posed as a two-choice affair. Five percent are unsure. We'll come back to them in a moment.

Rudy has some surprising strength in the demographics, especially women. While pundits believe that Hillary would motivate women to flock to her banner, Giuliani actually edges Hillary 44%-42% in this poll -- within the margin of error, to be sure, but much closer than most would imagine. Giuliani has a majority of those between 30-39 years of age (54-36) while Hillary has a slimmer majority in the 40-49 range (50-44). Despite Democratic claims on the youth vote, Hillary only gets a single percentage point lead on Rudy on the 18-29 demo (38-37), and Giuliani has significant leads among those 50 and older.

Otherwise, the only other surprise among the demographics are black voters. Hillary has a lead on Giuliani there, but Rasmussen shows the split 48-41 Hillary. I'd guess this to be a typo. The "Others" category is split 55-11 for Hillary, and I'd wager that they have the two turned around. Even so, only getting 55% of the black vote in a two-way race (18% unsure) looks like a huge problem for the Democrats.

As to those who are unsure, the most significant demographics for the undecided are those that favor Giuliani. That means that we could expect them to break more towards Rudy than Hillary when push comes to shove. All in all, this seems like the kind of boost that Rudy can use to make the case that he provides the best chance for Republicans to beat Hillary next November. John Podhoretz should be dancing over at The Corner with this news.

 


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; duncanhunter; electionpresident; elections; fredthompson; giuliani; hillary; rasmussen; romney; rudy; rudymcromney; stoprudy
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To: Petronski

That requires documentation.


101 posted on 08/16/2007 7:59:58 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Rudder

I won’t vote for sanctuary man if he runs against Satan.


102 posted on 08/16/2007 8:00:37 PM PDT by Dutch Tulip
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To: Rudder

I’m sure it does.


103 posted on 08/16/2007 8:01:14 PM PDT by Petronski (Why would Romney lie about Ronald Reagan's record?)
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To: Petronski; Spiff; dirtboy; flashbunny
As I recall, Rudy said Ginsberg would be a fine strict constructionist judge.

A "strict constructionist" judge wrote Roe v. Wade.

Rudy thinks of himself as a "strict constructionist."

There are a bunch of folks on this thread that need some edumacatin'!

104 posted on 08/16/2007 8:02:09 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Petronski
You recall poorly.

COLMES: Now, Roe vs. Wade -- You are pro-choice. How important is it to you as a pro-choice Republican to have a pro-choice on the court as someone...

GIULIANI: That is not the critical factor. And what's important to me is to have a very intelligent, very honest, very good lawyer on the court. And he fits that category, in the same way Justice Ginsburg fit that category.

I mean, she was — she maybe came at it from a very different political background, very qualified lawyer, very smart person. Lots of Republicans supported her. I expect, and listening to Senator Nelson, I expect that John Roberts will get support from a lot of Democrats.
105 posted on 08/16/2007 8:02:54 PM PDT by jonathanmo (No tag available at this time.)
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To: calcowgirl
There are a bunch of folks on this thread that need some edumacatin'!

Or a whap upside the haid.

106 posted on 08/16/2007 8:02:54 PM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: Saint Louis
As I stated in my response,,,,pleaes read my first response to you...geeez...lol

Just a quick recap, if you insist,,,,,180 degrees out of Rudy's gun-grabbing, pro-abortion, pro-amnesty, pro-litigation, pro-sanctuary city, pro-federal funding for abortions, pro-'big brother' government, and gay right crusading ideas. Is that specific enough for starters???

108 posted on 08/16/2007 8:03:56 PM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one to DIVIDE it!)
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To: Reagan Man
Hillary and Rooty are both full fledged liberals.

No discernible difference between them.

Still spouting Democrat troll talking points I see!

Not to mention lying through your teeth.

If you say you can't see the difference between HILLARY EFFING CLINTON and Rudy Giuliani, you're either insane or pathological.

Your posts could lead one to either conclusion.

109 posted on 08/16/2007 8:04:42 PM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: Rudder
Cool. Then you'll win your principles and so will Hilliary. Maybe that's your goal all along.

No, the goal is conservatism.

If the choice comes down to Hillary versus Rudy, conservatism is the sure loser.

110 posted on 08/16/2007 8:04:52 PM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: Rudder
...but then you can also contrive your entire reality without input from anybody.

I'll pass. Rudiphilia nervosa can be fatal.

111 posted on 08/16/2007 8:04:56 PM PDT by Petronski (Why would Romney lie about Ronald Reagan's record?)
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To: Rudder
And it'll be your fault.

Nope. It will be the fault of the GOP.

The lesser of two evils is still evil.

112 posted on 08/16/2007 8:05:57 PM PDT by Petronski (Why would Romney lie about Ronald Reagan's record?)
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To: Reagan Man

Presently i am a Fred Thompson backer and if he is in the
New Jersey primary i will vote for him because i am a conservative.
But in the end, if Rudy gets the nomination, i will
definitely vote for him. THE HILDEBEAST MUST NOT BECOME
PRESIDENT OF THIS GREAT NATION !! She must not be the one who
appoints the next three Supreme Court justices.That would ensure liberalism for many decades to come.DO NOT LET HER
DESTROY THE WONDERFUL DREAM OF JEFFERSON, MADISON AND OUR
OTHER FOUNDING FATHERS.Sometimes in life pragmatism must
rule.
I think he can very reasonably take Ohio and Pennsylvania.
If he does, the beast will be vanquished.


113 posted on 08/16/2007 8:06:02 PM PDT by GiveMeGoth
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To: calcowgirl
There are a bunch of folks on this thread that need some edumacatin'!

Agreed. I can't believe we are having to listen to this crap again! Frooty hasn't changed, why is there this new push here on FreeRepublic to try to convince us "he's the only one that can beat Hillary"?

Stop it people - if you want to be on a site that likes Rudy Guiliani - they have one for you called "Wideawakes". I think you'll be much happier there being among your own kind.

114 posted on 08/16/2007 8:07:21 PM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: Rudder

“If the GOP nominates a pro-abortion gun-grabbing liberal, they forfeit my vote, and it will be their fault, not mine.

Cool. Then you’ll win your principles and so will Hilliary. Maybe that’s your goal all along. And it’ll be your fault.”

No, they don’t “win” their principles, they abandon them. They ignore the real progress that could be made by a victory, and, dare I say, by a potential landslide mandate. These weak sisters pretending to be purists would simply roll over and let Hillary and the Democrats back into power.


116 posted on 08/16/2007 8:08:17 PM PDT by Saint Louis (I'll take Rudy in a dress any day over Hillary in a pants suit...)
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To: Petronski
Seriously, why has the conservative right stuck with the Republican Party this long? The Constitution Party is clearly a much better fit for your philosophy and political agenda? Have you considered it?
117 posted on 08/16/2007 8:08:48 PM PDT by jonathanmo (No tag available at this time.)
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To: Petronski

The differential diagnosis between Rudiphilia nervosa and Hilliaryphilia is extremely difficult as well.


118 posted on 08/16/2007 8:09:20 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: dirtboy
If the choice comes down to Hillary versus Rudy, conservatism is the sure loser.

No question about it. As I oft repeat here,,,

liberal Republicans are much more dangerous than liberal democrats,,,

because liberal Republicans, like Guiliani, BLUR THE DISTINCTION between conservatism and liberalism,,,

making LIBERALISM MUCH MORE ACCEPTABLE!!

119 posted on 08/16/2007 8:13:49 PM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one to DIVIDE it!)
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To: golfisnr1
Anything would be better than Hitlery.

That's why we have have three terms with the boneheaded Bushes.
I'm sick of having to settle for the lesser of two evils. There are only two differences between Rudy and Hitlery. 1) Rudy birth certificate classifies him as a male. 2) Hitlery is honest about her political leanings.

120 posted on 08/16/2007 8:13:55 PM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter '08)
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