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Yet Another Captured al-Qaeda Member Confirms UBL Had Camps In Saddam's Iraq
Flopping Aces ^ | 8-12-07 | Scott Malensk

Posted on 08/12/2007 10:49:14 AM PDT by Renfield

For those counting, this is at least the sixth confirmation of this. ABC News led the way with three reports from captured AQ and captured IIS guys immediately after the invasion. (h/t Amy Proctor)

The political rhetoric says that these camps were not in Saddam's Iraq but in the Kurdish north. What that ignores is that the camps were certainly not at all allied with the Kurds, but against them, and were acting with Saddam's help.

Politicians often try to point to Senate Intelligence Committee reports claiming there were no ties etc., but these reports are:

1. Political reports not intelligence reports.

2. The Senate Intelligence Committee is not an intelligence agency any more than Feith's Office of Special Plans was an intelligence agency

3. The claims of no ties in the Senate Intelligence Committee reports were based on a single interim DIA officer's testimony-not an intelligence investigation and subsequent conclusions

4. believe it or not....there has NEVER been a conclusive investigation done by ANY of the 16 intel agencies into whether or not there were AQ camps in Iraq prior to the invasion (read the political reports carefully, and you'll see this)

For a complete listing of the govt reports on AQ ties to Saddam's regime, please read this

My point here is that no one has really looked into this matter, but politicians have been happy to cherry pick it and push a false idea until it's accepted.

Every few months there's more and more evidence leaking out that Saddam's regime had closer ties with Al Queda than the Germans and Italians did with the Japanese (think about it, were there Japanese training camps in Bavaria and Tuscany? Were German and Italian troops in training camps in Japanese held Indochina?

By and large the news media let the world down by not adequately looking into either the Bush Administrations or the UN claims about WMD in Saddam's Iraq, and now they're doing it again by not (FIVE YEARS LATER) examining a question that's only been reported on by politicians and not by intelligence agents. So the American people and the world are left to look at the videos themselves as ABC, NBC, CBS, even Fox just won't report on the connection and adequately describe it. We're letting politicians, (professional lawyers; trained, professional liars and spinmeisters) tell us what is real and what is not depending more on their political needs than on what is fact. Why does the media parrot the political distortions rather than the truth?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedaandiraq; binladen; iraq; prequel; saddam; syria; terrorism; trainingcamps; zaraqawi
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1 posted on 08/12/2007 10:49:16 AM PDT by Renfield
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Note: Video at Flopping Aces


2 posted on 08/12/2007 10:49:48 AM PDT by Renfield (How come there aren't any football teams with pink uniforms?)
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To: Renfield; april15Bendovr; ikez78

Ping.


3 posted on 08/12/2007 11:02:20 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: Renfield

Awesome and thank you.


4 posted on 08/12/2007 11:21:31 AM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: Renfield; SandRat; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Allegra; ..

Thanks for posting this.


5 posted on 08/12/2007 11:45:12 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Granddaughters!!!)
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To: Renfield

save


6 posted on 08/12/2007 12:02:40 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Renfield

bttt


7 posted on 08/12/2007 12:17:03 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: Renfield

Enemy Headquarters at the Democrat National Committee will do everything it its sizable power to bury this story.


8 posted on 08/12/2007 12:55:30 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the ping .. and I have no doubt the media will either ignore this ... or barely report on it

Most of the media doesn’t care about us ... and frankly these days .. the feeling is mutual

9 posted on 08/12/2007 1:09:42 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Renfield
As John Adams put it, "facts are stubborn things." Two rather important ones that our leftwing/Stalinist propaganda organs have gone to extraordinary lengths to obscure or deny are:

1 An Iraqi intelligence officer met with some of the 9/11 conspirators in early 2000 in Malaysia. He greeted one of the 9/11 hijackers at the airport in Kuala Lumpur and escorted him. He subsequently disappeared after the 9/11 kickoff meeting.

2 Mohammed Atta met with an Iraqi intelligence agent in April of 2001 in Prague. Czech intelligence is certain it was Atta while the CIA disputes it. Keep in mind the CIA's track record and its internal politics when they dispute this meeting ever occurred.

A reasonable person can draw a very strong inference from those facts.

Interestingly, TWA flight 800 was shot down on July 17th, the anniversary of the founding of the Iraqi Baath party. The Iraqi role in the 1993 WTC bombing is well known. Just a series of incidents whose cumulative odds point toward Iraq and Saddam Hussein having a very active sponsoring and operational role in the 9/11 attacks. The US had no choice but to remove him.
10 posted on 08/12/2007 1:17:15 PM PDT by KamperKen
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bttt


11 posted on 08/12/2007 1:20:32 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Renfield

Very interesting. Thanks for posting.


12 posted on 08/12/2007 1:25:23 PM PDT by Shelayne (I will continue to pray for President Bush and my country, as I am commanded to do by my Lord.)
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To: Renfield

Every few months there’s more and more evidence leaking out that Saddam’s regime had closer ties with Al Queda

I never had any doubt.


13 posted on 08/12/2007 1:31:11 PM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: Renfield

You damn people are ruining my plans

14 posted on 08/12/2007 1:36:59 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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bump


15 posted on 08/12/2007 1:44:01 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: KamperKen

Shot Down???? Gee, I wonder why we never learned of THAT happening??? [uber,gobby-oozing sarcasm off]


16 posted on 08/12/2007 2:51:48 PM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: jveritas

I was going to post this but I am not at home and didn’t have my PING list. I”ll be doing something on this. Goes nicely with your video Joseph.


17 posted on 08/12/2007 3:00:20 PM PDT by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com)
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To: ikez78

Correct Mark. The Al Qaeda video “The Return to the Mountains” ( not my video :) ) fits the story very well.


18 posted on 08/12/2007 3:15:44 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Ping


19 posted on 08/12/2007 4:34:07 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr

Great news.


20 posted on 08/12/2007 4:35:49 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Democrats have plenty of patience for anti-American dictators but none for Iraqi democrats.)
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