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Pasadena Gang Killings Not Due to Poverty, Racism or Unaffordable Housing
The Pasadena Pundit ^ | July 29, 2007 | Wayne Lusvardi

Posted on 07/29/2007 11:00:46 AM PDT by WayneLusvardi

Pasadena Gang Killings Not Due to Poverty, Racism or Unaffordable Housing

The Pasadena Pundit - July 29, 2007

"Man does not live by bread alone." -- Matthew 4:4

The recent tally by the L.A. Times that there have been 18 gang-related murders in Pasadena in the past 18 months has brought about shock, outrage, and finger pointing as to why the uptrend in such violence has come about.

To Diane Segura of the Pasadena YWCA it is because there is an income "disparty" between the rich and the poor. Community activist Shirley Smith has been often heard saying the reason for gang murders is simple - working for $7 per hour at McDonald's can't compete with $300 per day selling drugs on the streets. To Occidental College sociologist Peter Dreier it is frequently poverty and racism and lack of affordable housing that is attributed as the cause for such violence. This mantra is heard frequently as an explanation by our cultural elites for why there is crime, dropouts, poor school performance, declining school attendance etc., etc., ad nauseum. It is de rigueur and fashionable in the Pasadena Star News and the Pasadena Weekly newspapers.

But if this is so why do so many more even poorer people than are found in gangs living in gang-infested neighborhoods not join gangs or engage in gang killings? A study by U.S. Irvine professor George Tita found that of 500 homocides from 1999-2004 in a gang-plagued South Los Angeles district almost all were black-on-black and Hispanic-on-Hispanic. Ironically, the scandal plagued Heritage Square project in Pasadena is proposing to build affordable housing by removing land owned by a church - a mediating social structure. So how are poverty, racism, and unaffordable housing the source of the gang problem? The recipe explanations for gang killings given by high profile activists and so-called academic experts are only partial truths at best or, at worst, self-interested distortions with a political agenda.

Gang violence peaked in the U.S. from 1993 to 1995 when there were 1,362, 1,340 and 1,338 gang-related deaths respectively. The nation was suffering from an economic recession in the mid 1990's. As gang intervention came about and the economy turned better gang killings slowed. Gang deaths dropped to 841 in 1999. This was still two to four times higher than the 176 gang deaths in 1976 and 428 in 1988.

In Pasadena and the San Gabriel Valley gang killings are typically related to gang-on-gang turf wars over drug dealings, not racial conflicts, poverty, or unaffordable housing per se. Most of these killings are based on retaliation and rivalries due to incursions into other gangs territories. On some occasions they are power struggles after gang leaders are removed due to drug stings or arrests.

Reportedly there are hundreds of gangs operating in Los Angeles County. There are perhaps 400 to 500 known "heavy players" in gangs in Pasadena, with maybe up to 5,000 associates and "wanna-be's." According to StreetGangs.com the major gangs operating in and around Pasadena are:

The "Bloods" Parke Nine Bloods (defunct since 1997) Pasadena Denver Lanes Pasadena Squiggly Lanes

The "Crips" Pasadena Raymond Avenue Crips Altadena Block Crips West Covina Neighborhood Crips Du Rocc Crips, Duarte

These gangs are typically predominantly Black or Brown but not always.

There is an old joke that sociologists need a million dollar research grant to find a house of ill repute in a city where at least every man knows its location. Similarly, every kid who goes to Muir High School reportedly knows, or knows someone who knows, where all the drug houses or drug dealing street corners are. Ground Zero is reportedly around Fair Oaks and Washington Boulevard and/or Pintoresca Street. Reportedly, the gangs are recruiting from the public schools.

Just as pot-growing has shifted from rural and seclusive locations to "urban pot farms" in the suburbs, we might see a geographic shift in gangs and drug houses. As soon as the newly proposed Inclusionary Condo law is passed we might see such gangs metastacizing to downtown locations where it would be very hard for the police to root them out once they lacked the control exerted by a landlord.

While there is no consensus definition of a gang or gang member, it is fairly well understood that a gang is a bunch of boys with weak parental supervision or authority who form what might be called enterprising "mediating structures" between the family and the large impersonal social structures of society such as schools, courts and police, and business corporations. Sociologist Peter L. Berger and Catholic priest Richard John Neuhaus define mediating structures as "those institutions standing between the individual in his private life and the large institutions of public life."

The mediating structure of a gang is a substitute for the collapse of the nuclear family, the extended family, church, schools, family business apprenticeships, and other informal face-to-face institutions that buffer the individual from the harsh realities of the larger economy, the impersonality of bureaucracies, and the warehousing and parasitic non-profit social agencies which often can only treat violent boys as a case of ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) or a case out of the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association) requiring therapy. Alternatively, the only other way we have to treat delinquent boys is to throw them in jail - witness the high black male incarceration rates. The bureaucratic and nonprofit system for dealing with delinquent boys reads like parts of a Solzhenitsyn novel.

Instead we have interposed a whole host of pseudo-mediating institutions between boys and the impersonal institutions of our larger society - baby-sitting nonprofit after-school programs, contrived summer jobs programs, mental health clinics for school "bullies," tutoring for S.A.T. tests for "pie-in-the-sky" jobs, etc. Learning how to fix a car, build a house, or R.O.T.C. training is typically not on the feminized agenda.

Political liberalism has a tendency to be blind to the the importance of natural mediating structures. The main tenet of liberalism is a movement to government action toward greater social justice within the existing system. Anything "in-between" the individual and the state or para-state agencies is viewed as irrelevant, even an obstacle, to the rational egalitarian society. What lies in between --families, churches, small mom and pop businesses, family business apprenticeships, true voluntary organizations -- are dismissed as superstitious, bigoted, discriminatory, politically incorrect, and un-diverse.

Gangs are typically some of the most fearful, ethnically undiverse, bigoted, and politically incorrect social groupings. Boys like hierarchy, competitition, and excitement. Gangs form a substitute for the lack of true mediating social structures in society. Gangs live on more than "bread" or a "black market" economy alone - they feed on face-to-face relationships, loyalty, status, male macho-ness, excitement instead school boredom, and defended gang turf. Gang members typically have larger amounts of money and more cars available than their peers. And they have more self-esteem.

Is it any surprise in a community where there is a hue and cry about glaring income disparities, racism, and oddly even Bibical economic injustice, that there is not even a vocational trades program in our public schools? This is in large part due to the fact that redevelopment has siphoned the property tax base from the public schools to pay for salary benefits for current and retired city employees at City Hall. And redevelopment along with eminent domain eliminates the smallest, oldest, and thus the cheapest housing. It eradicates family-run small businesses. It inflates new housing costs by inclusionary housing. Redevelopment replaces non-union jobs with union shops and the political machines that back unions. Affordable housing projects condemn or acquire old church buildings.

And parasitical non-profits in our schools typically only serve as adult jobs programs, lucrative consulting jobs for the well-connected, or special arts and science programs for elite school kids that don't mediate the occupational transition for boys to the larger economy. Are we now reaping what we sowed?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; blacks; gangkillngs; gangs; govwatch; mediatingstructures; pasadena
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1 posted on 07/29/2007 11:00:51 AM PDT by WayneLusvardi
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To: WayneLusvardi

Good Lord! How can we regulate illegal immigration
if we can’t even handle our very own delinquent citizens?


2 posted on 07/29/2007 11:07:08 AM PDT by Moderate right-winger (Unity 2008)
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To: Moderate right-winger

If we got illegal immigration under control, we would at the same time put a lid on gangs and drugs. The street gangs are involved in human smuggling as a source of new members.


3 posted on 07/29/2007 11:30:34 AM PDT by Judges Gone Wild
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To: WayneLusvardi
... working for $7 per hour at McDonald's can't compete with $300 per day selling drugs on the streets.

Yes, but there's no risk of another franchise wanting that particular hamburger dealership'd turf by coming in and shooting the cashiers, cooks and customers down during a drive thru.

4 posted on 07/29/2007 11:36:30 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: WayneLusvardi
..."Ironically, the scandal plagued Heritage Square project in Pasadena is proposing to build affordable housing by removing land owned by a church - a mediating social structure."

My experience is that "churches" often own much of the property in inner city poor areas. They can afford to hold it, because of favorable tax treatment.

The article suggests this project is replacing a "church", but I would doubt that is the case.

5 posted on 07/29/2007 11:40:11 AM PDT by There's millions of'em (Dem Strategy = Flaws to applause)
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To: There's millions of'em

Here’s the link to the newspaper article reporting the City of Pasadena bought property from a church for the Heritage Square affordable housing project:

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_6486407


6 posted on 07/29/2007 11:43:25 AM PDT by WayneLusvardi (It's more complex than it might seem)
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To: theDentist

You can make $300 a day selling dope on the street? Sheesh, that’s better than carpenters or electricians do.


7 posted on 07/29/2007 11:53:00 AM PDT by ObadiahLynch
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To: WayneLusvardi
$300 per day selling drugs on the streets.

Is that gross or net?
8 posted on 07/29/2007 11:58:26 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: ObadiahLynch

I’m willing to bet that stated figure is not even close to the real number.


9 posted on 07/29/2007 12:00:42 PM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: WayneLusvardi
To Diane Segura of the Pasadena YWCA it is because there is an income "disparty" between the rich and the poor.

Nonsense. Utter nonsense. As Walter Williams and others have pointed out time and time again, throughout history there has been poverty without the crime and violence. Segura needs to get a clue and buy a vowel.

11 posted on 07/29/2007 12:06:15 PM PDT by Wheee The People (Go FRed)
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To: ObadiahLynch

I don’t know where she came up with $300... I’d expected it would be an even larger daily profit...


12 posted on 07/29/2007 12:09:24 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: WayneLusvardi

In order to prevent gangs, we would have to bring back shame. There should be shame in having babies one cannot care for properly. Someone should be home watching that child from age 0 to age 18, be it Grandma or Mom or Dad. That child needs discipline and love as well as a roof over his head and food on the table.

In this MTV culture, kids don’t learn shame. They learn that their private parts are for semi-public display, and all of their bodily functions are to be obeyed whenever it feels good.

You can’t just get knocked up by some jerk and then have that baby and spend your days either working or doing drugs, either way leaving the child to the streets. Who knows, maybe the “father” is on the streets. Women have to THINK about who they put between their legs. That shmo is going to be their child’s hero, even if he’s a gangbanger and spends part of every year in jail.

Larry Elder’s website should still have his list of things you need to do in order to avoid poverty forever. It’s an easy list. #1 is something like “Do not have children before you can afford them.”


13 posted on 07/29/2007 12:24:11 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: WayneLusvardi

Didn’t bother to read the article, but my first comment after reading the title was “No Duh, Einstein”.


14 posted on 07/29/2007 12:26:43 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Yaelle
Well said.
It’s a very basic problem of teaching and then enforcing a right or wrong mentality in the children in those areas. If they don’t understand that selling drugs is wrong then there is nothing to keep them from the temptation. It all falls back on the total failure of the parents to be good and effective parents.
It’s like a bad bear who raids camps and cabins for food and takes her cub with her. The cub learns that this is acceptable behavior and will continue this activity right up until the time somebody gets tired of losing their hard earned dollars. Then they shoot the bear.
The moral of this story is that if you raise, or fail to raise, you child in such a way that it becomes an out of control animal don’t bitch when others shoot it. A gang of kids is nothing more than a pack of human wolves. If you really intend to eliminate them from a certain area the only real cure is to keep shooting until the are all dead or they leave the area. It is not possible to reason with a pack mentality.
Every kid in those gangs is either trained to be that way or allowed to be that way by the adults around them in their homes.
15 posted on 07/29/2007 12:45:57 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: ObadiahLynch

Don’t take these numbers too seriously.

An economist did a survey and found that most of the guys selling dope are barely making minimum wage.

The gangs are organized in a very steep pyramidal structure. Those at the top make a lot of money. Most of the members make very little, but keep plugging away on the theory that someday they will make it to the top.


16 posted on 07/29/2007 1:22:35 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: WayneLusvardi
working for $7 per hour at McDonald's can't compete with $300 per day selling drugs on the streets

Well there you go -- McDonalds, start paying $300/hour. Right now!

Reportedly, the gangs are recruiting from the public schools.

Of course.

Alternatively, the only other way we have to treat delinquent boys is to throw them in jail

Oh ... there's another way.

17 posted on 07/29/2007 1:48:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Sherman Logan

“The gangs are organized in a very steep pyramidal structure. Those at the top make a lot of money. Most of the members make very little, but keep plugging away on the theory that someday they will make it to the top.”

Ya, that’s what that Freakonomics guy said too. As far as I know, you’re right. (Haven’t sold much crack lately, doncha know.) So I dunno where the $300/day thing came from. These guys would have cars and apartments if they were making that kind of money. Yet they live with their moms, or couch surf.


18 posted on 07/29/2007 2:03:31 PM PDT by ObadiahLynch
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To: BenLurkin

Just don’t spank them.

Also in California, environmentalists have devised a new form of prison “chain gangs” which once were only found in the South. Incarcerated juvenile delinquents are made to clear brush and “non-native species” of plants from around the homes of wealthy elites. Call it “environmental chain gangs.”


19 posted on 07/29/2007 2:04:50 PM PDT by WayneLusvardi (It's more complex than it might seem)
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To: BenLurkin

Just don’t spank them.

Also in California, environmentalists have devised a new form of prison “chain gangs” which once were only found in the South. Incarcerated juvenile delinquents are made to clear brush and “non-native species” of plants from around the homes of wealthy elites. Call it “environmental chain gangs.”


20 posted on 07/29/2007 2:04:56 PM PDT by WayneLusvardi (It's more complex than it might seem)
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