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1 posted on 07/25/2007 6:18:27 AM PDT by harwood
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“The teachings of Islam.”

I wonder how long it will take for the experts in the Democratic Party to dispute the Taliban’s interpretation of the Koran.


2 posted on 07/25/2007 6:20:20 AM PDT by Brilliant
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.."Koreans prisoner detained by the movement in Afghanistan were treated according to the teachings of Islam."

So they beheaded the hostaqge with a sword???

3 posted on 07/25/2007 6:21:54 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: harwood

What is Islam based on?

Mohammed went into “trances” and fits (like epileptic fits) when he was given the “word of God” and would shout out what he was told. These would be written down by his followers. This is the makeup of the Koran.

When Mohammed was just walking and talking and acting like “normal”, his words and deeds were written down by his followers and this went into the Hadith. Now, acting “normal” for Mohammed was taking 12+ wives (including a 6 year old), taking slaves (including sex slaves), executing infidels, conducting raids for treasure, etc.

Now, this is where it gets complicated.

A large part of the words he spoke in trances were “taken back” by Mohammed. He determined them to be the work of the devil (thus they are called the “Satanic Verses” and these are the same verses that Mr. Salman Rushdie got in trouble for writing about).

Now, how Mohammed determined which verses were from God and which were from Satan I do not know.

Also, there were literally dozens of widely different versions of the Koran and Hadith floating around for several hundred years after Mohammed death until a Fatwah was decreed to destroy all but one version. Now, even Mohammed could not remember what he was told by God and forgot it (those are his words as written in the Hadith) so I do not know how the powers in charge decided which was the correct version.

Also according to the Hadith, Mohammed turned people into monkeys, you can determine a child’s sex depending on whether the male or female has an orgasm first (that advice came directly from the Angel Gabriel), dogs and cats are evil and should be killed, that the devil lives in your nose at night (and how to get rid of him in the morning), chess is forbidden, muslims have one intestine while infidels have seven, don’t pray looking up or your eyes will be snatched away, that one wing of a fly is poison but the other is the cure, that drinking camel urine is good for you and I could go on.

And that Mohammed himself didn’t even know if he was going to heaven. If even Mohammed doesn’t know, what chance does the average muslim have?

And for some non-PC info, Mohammed was described as a white man.

Now, if you can bear it, to compare to the Gospels of New Testament.

Jesus was someone who lived a very humble life and was killed for basically saying he was a King and Son of God (blasphemy) by the powers in charge (Roman and Jewish). The government wanted Jesus destroyed and wanted his growing movement destroyed (as it threatened their power). If, after 3 days, the followers of Jesus proclaimed he has risen from the dead, (just as he predicted), and is truly our Savior, the High Officials would have wanted to destroy such a “myth.” They could have easily done this by producing the dead body of Jesus and saying “Your Messiah is still dead and so is your movement” or producing many eye witnesses of the dead Jesus. But they couldn’t.

The letters that make up the New Testament were written by the eye witnesses of the events of Jesus. They were written in just one generation when many other eye witnesses were still alive. They were written without collusion from other Apostles. Even if any of the Apostles wanted to “add” to the “myth” of Jesus, they would have done so in a very disjointed and easily detectable fashion. Yet, the main Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) that describe the life of Jesus are amazingly in harmony with one another and the small differences are consistent with what we would see today if four people witnessed a major event and wrote about the event apart from each other. The Gospels can be traced back to their sources and are basically unchanged from their originals.

The Bible is the most investigated historical document in the history of the world. It has been investigated by scientists, philosophers and archeologists using technology undreamed of when the Bible was written. It is been desperately tried to be “disproved” for over 2000 years, yet, the Bible still stands as the truth.

The stories of Jesus still make sense to us today. It may be because they are true, it may be because they are based in love or it may be because they were written to tell the people of the Word of God.

Regards,

2banana


4 posted on 07/25/2007 6:22:48 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: harwood
We need to invite some ROK troops into Afghanistan. The Taliban will find out what the North Vietnamese learned the hard way. Perhaps some ROK Marines might do the trick...
5 posted on 07/25/2007 6:24:31 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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they’re reporting now that he died of natural causes.


6 posted on 07/25/2007 6:24:43 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: harwood

“Koreans prisoner detained by the movement in Afghanistan were treated according to the teachings of Islam.””

Flush Islam down the toilet!


7 posted on 07/25/2007 6:25:24 AM PDT by RoadTest (The arrogance of academia is even greater than its ignorance.)
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islam strives to win the hearts and minds of infidels throughout the world.


9 posted on 07/25/2007 6:25:49 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: harwood

Those barbarians.


10 posted on 07/25/2007 6:26:08 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: harwood

Strategypage.com
Afghanistan: Iran Helps Out
http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/afghan/articles/20070725.aspx

July 25, 2007: The Taliban kidnapped 18 Christian medical missionaries from South Korea (18 women and three men) last week, and demanded the release of imprisoned Taliban, in return for freeing the South Koreans. The Taliban also want South Korea to withdraw its 200 troops (all combat support and civil affairs) in Afghanistan. Police and soldiers soon located the kidnappers, and their captives, and surrounded them. This gives the government considerably more leverage in the negotiations. The government says if will use force, if negotiations fail. So far, negotiations have failed. The Taliban also say they have killed two German captives, but there is no proof. All this kidnapping of foreigners is an ancient practice in a region that has, for thousands of years, been notorious for its banditry and general lawlessness.

The Taliban continue to lose battles, with over a hundred of them killed in the last few days. The Taliban are desperate to protect drug producing operations in Helmand province, but they have been unable to do so. Large (a hundred or men) groups of Taliban try to take on NATO forces, but never succeed. The survivors of these battles flee back to Pakistan, where their descriptions of NATO combat techniques makes it more difficult for the Taliban to recruit new fighters. But the Taliban pays well, better than the Afghan police and army. But the risk is very high, and the quality of Taliban recruits has been declining. The Taliban need the income from heroin and opium production in order to meet their payroll and stay in business.

Afghan border guard officers claim that Iran is openly moving weapons across the border, and giving them to the Taliban. Iran is also allowing the Taliban to receive terrorist training (bomb making) in Iran. Normally, the Taliban is anti-Shia, and during the 1990s persecuted Afghan Shia (often to death). But Islamic radicals hate the United States more than they hate Afghans who kill Shia (the majority sect in Iran. but a minority in Afghanistan and Pakistan). The Iranians expect the Taliban to lay off the Afghan Shia while receiving Iranian aid, and that takes some of the edge off this distasteful business. The Iranians have huge (over 100,000) police and military forces on its eastern border, mainly to deal with Afghan drug smugglers.


12 posted on 07/25/2007 6:29:48 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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Hmmm...this is what I got AFTER clicking "English Interface":

من جانبه أكد "حاجي منصور" القائد العسكري في حركة طالبان الإسلامية اليوم أن الأسري الكوريين المحتجزين لدى الحركة في أفغانستان يعاملون طبقا لتعاليم الإسلام . أضاف منصور – في تسجيل صوتي بثته فضائية الجزيرة –: إن طالبان لن تطلق الأسرى التابعين لكنيسة في كوريا الجنوبية مقابل فدية مالية، مؤكدا أن الحركة لن تتنازل عن شروطها لإطلاق سراحهم.

13 posted on 07/25/2007 6:31:40 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit (There's another old saying Senator..."Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.")
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"Koreans prisoner detained by the movement in Afghanistan were treated according to the teachings of Islam."

They were executed as infidels and pawns of the great satan?
16 posted on 07/25/2007 6:36:03 AM PDT by stm
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Taliban 'executes first South Korean hostage'

By Matthew Moore and agencies
The Telegraph (UK)
Last Updated: 2:31pm BST 25/07/2007

Taliban fighters holding 23 South Korean Christians claim to have executed one of the captives, amid reports that eight others have been released.

South Korean protesters call for the release of the hostages and for their country to withdraw troops from Afghanistan

A spokesman said the male hostage had been executed because of Kabul's refusal to release Taliban prisoners.

The remaining hostages would be killed if the Afghan government did not succumb to the group's demands by 1am Thursday local time, (9.30pm Wednesday BST), he added. This was the "final deadline", he said.

Other reports from Western officials suggested some of the Koreans had been freed and were now being held at a nearby US base. South Korean media reported that eight people had been released.

Afghan and US troops have sealed off an area of the southern province of Ghazni, where they believe the hostages are being held.

The Koreans were seized from a bus on the main Kabul to Kandahar highway last Thursday in the largest single abduction of foreigners since 2001.

On Saturday, the Taliban demanded that Korea withdrew the 200 troops it has serving with the US-led Coalition forces in Afghanistan in exchange for the hostages' freedom.

When the Korean government responded that its troops were already due to leave at the end of the year, the Taliban issued a new demand for the release of 23 of its prisoners.

A Korean negotiating team, including the country's deputy foreign minister, arrived in Kabul on Sunday and claimed to have opened channels to the Taliban through tribal elders in Ghazni.

The Korean hostages are members of a church involved in "short-term evangelistic and aid work" in southern Afghanistan, according to Joseph Park, the mission director of the Christian Council of Korea.

Korean Embassy officials have "strongly rejected" any suggestion that the hostages were trying to win converts.

Last summer, evangelists tried to hold a "peace festival" in Afghanistan. Some 1,200 Korean Christians arrived, sparking violent local protests and accusations that they were undertaking missionary work. All were deported for their own safety before the event could take place.

28 posted on 07/25/2007 7:27:15 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: harwood

later read.


34 posted on 07/25/2007 8:36:44 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: harwood
Bae Hyung-kyu


39 posted on 07/25/2007 1:56:45 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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