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Web Sites Rally Support for G.I.’s in Legal Trouble
New York Times ^ | July 22, 2007 | PAUL von ZIELBAUER

Posted on 07/21/2007 2:16:55 PM PDT by RedRover

Conservative Christians and military veterans are part of an emerging group of Americans who say they are upset by the recent prosecutions of soldiers and Marines based in Iraq on war crimes charges, and are coming to their defense with words, Web sites and money.

In the past year, more than a dozen Web sites have been developed to solicit donations to hire private lawyers for service members...charged with violent crimes for actions taken in the confusion of combat or counterinsurgency operations.

Virtually all donations come with handwritten or e-mail messages full of encouragement for the troops in Iraq and laced with frustration at the government and the news media.

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Outside Boston, a group of Vietnam War veterans — retired police officials, postal workers, lawyers and others — established the Military Combat Defense Fund and recently surpassed $152,000 in donations....

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Much of the strongest criticism from many defense funds is directed toward mainstream news organizations, which they say portray the concerns of Iraqis more sympathetically than the plight of American troops.

"From the magazines and newspapers that I read, it seems that many of them are too condemning of our own guys," said Jacqueline Batcha, 44, of Atlantis, Fla., who sent $100 to the Web site for Staff Sgt. Frank D. Wuterich....

Other parents of active-duty Marines and soldiers are doing whatever they can to publicly support troops facing charges.

In Seattle, Don Dinsmore, the father of a Marine infantry officer currently on duty in Falluja, led a group of motorcycle riders on a West Coast road trip to the gates of Camp Pendleton, Calif., on June 28, where hearings and trials in the Haditha and Hamdaniya cases are being held. Along the way the group collected enough cash donations to fill 10 bank-deposit bags, Mr. Dinsmore said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: defendourmarines; haditha; hamdania
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This will be in in the Sunday Times. I believe it's only online now in the Times Select section of their website.
1 posted on 07/21/2007 2:16:57 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: RedRover
Good to hear. Yes, Christians are extremely upset over our warriors being prosecuted like a criminal.
2 posted on 07/21/2007 2:22:42 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: 4woodenboats; aculeus; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ...
Members of the Haditha Marine Ping List are part of
"an emerging group of Americans"!

We're on the rise!


3 posted on 07/21/2007 2:22:52 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

Like this?!

Haditha Exposed
May 11, 2007

Marines involved in the alleged massacre at Haditha, Iraq, went on trial this week. The New York Times’ Paul von Zielbauer talks about a knowingly false press-release put forth by the military, and says that without media attention, there may not have been any military investigation at all.


4 posted on 07/21/2007 2:23:17 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: RedRover

Over Memorial Day weekend, New York Times metro reporter Paul von Zielbauer called his mother to tell her about his new assignment: Next month, he’ll be going to the Baghdad bureau.

“She freaked out and she hung up,” Mr. von Zielbauer said, “and turned on the TV and saw what happened to the CBS News crew.”

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Private Health Care in Jails Can Be a Death Sentence

Paul von Zielbauer writes that “a yearlong examination of a health care in jails revealed frequent flaws that were sometimes lethal.”


5 posted on 07/21/2007 2:27:23 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Virtually all donations come with handwritten or e-mail messages full of encouragement for the troops in Iraq and laced with frustration at the government and the news media.

Now that's a shocker!

6 posted on 07/21/2007 2:29:21 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

>> Much of the strongest criticism from many defense funds is directed toward mainstream news organizations, which they say portray the concerns of Iraqis more sympathetically than the plight of American troops

The NYT isn’t ducking quite far enough in this statement. They twist, distort, and lie, and expect the World to consume every fiber of its fabrications. Well,those days are long gone, and the NYT knows it. So like maniacs among the innocent, they will slash, gash, and harm anything to get noticed.


7 posted on 07/21/2007 2:30:03 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: RedRover

NYT of course avoids mentioning john murtha in along with a number of snide comments within this article.


8 posted on 07/21/2007 2:31:29 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: RedRover

(Paul von Zielbauer, “Files on U.S. Reparations Give Hint of War’s Toll

Propaganda Fear Cited in Account of Iraqi Killings
By PAUL von ZIELBAUER

“Patrols fail to stem Iraq violence”
Paul von Zielbauer New York Times


9 posted on 07/21/2007 2:41:10 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

A dump Murtha campaign can be launched over the Internet. The American people can no longer look to the MSM for the truth and/or the news. Too bad a minute by minute news website that only reports the news can’t be launched.


10 posted on 07/21/2007 2:49:41 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: RedRover
From the article....“I wonder if you are supposed to check out each enemy to see if they have a gun or wait for them to shoot first,” wrote a 98-year-old woman from Grand Junction, Colo., who recently sent $25 to the Military Combat Defense Fund....“Bible says that the country will always be fighting. We have been praying for all you boys and girls.”

Makes sense to me!
11 posted on 07/21/2007 3:01:51 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: MrCFdovnh; Gene Eric; Tamar1973; whatisthetruth
I hadn't realized until yesterday (when MrCFdovnh told me) how much Michael Savage had done to raise money for LtCol Chessani's defense. The Times' article closes with this...

...the Thomas More Law Center, a Christian firm representing his battalion commander, Lt. Col. Jeffrey R. Chessani, who is charged with dereliction of duty, has collected about $300,000, said one of Colonel Chessani’s lawyers, Brian J. Rooney.

One difference, it seems, is Michael Savage, a popular conservative talk-radio host who has discussed Colonel Chessani’s case on his syndicated program.

Mr. Rooney’s law center received $50,000 in contributions in just three days this month, after Mr. Rooney’s latest interview with Mr. Savage.

"He's all over this case," Mr. Rooney said of Mr. Savage. "He really is a big supporter of us and the Marines."

12 posted on 07/21/2007 3:07:34 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Girlene

Me, too!


13 posted on 07/21/2007 3:07:58 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover; Girlene
Conservative Christians and military veterans are part of an emerging group of Americans

The article left out the moderate Muslims (muzzies as Freepers say) who are upset about the charges.

14 posted on 07/21/2007 3:11:05 PM PDT by lilycicero (I hope Don didn't take any wooden nickels.)
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To: RedRover; brityank; lilycicero; xzins

Yes, Savage has over the years helped get the message out. A few times I’ve listened to him, he gets some of the facts messed up, but he does bring attention to accused military causes (starting with Pantano).

The one blaring thing left out of this article is how much the government has spent to bring charges and prosecute these Marines and Soldiers. It’s not even a fair fight, financially. Red, you put out a figure of $43 million that the prosecution and NCIS has spent to try to convict the Haditha Marines. Don’t know how accurate that is, but it wouldn’t surprise me. I’m glad the NY Times is getting the word out about some of these funds, but a complete article would have mentioned the comparison between Govt. funds and private funds. That fight is not a fair one.


15 posted on 07/21/2007 3:18:18 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: RedRover; smoothsailing

Thanks for this important Thread!!!!!.....I smell Hillary again!!!!!!.... I think my daughters are designing Monica dresses + beret’s to wear when Hillary campagins in Phoenix.Complete with a white stripe near the knee!!!!!.....


16 posted on 07/21/2007 4:15:52 PM PDT by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Vet===Fairness Doctrine for TV First!!!!!.....I'Am With Fred)
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To: RedRover

I congratulate Paul von Zielbauer for this favorable article, the publicity may help in fund raising for these Marines.


17 posted on 07/21/2007 4:27:18 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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If you would like to help with the civilian lawyer’s legal fees for the
Haditha Marines you can do so by going to these sites.

Defend Our Marines

Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt

SSgt. Frank Wuterich

Lance Cpl. Stephen B. Tatum

Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani

Military Combat Defense Fund


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18 posted on 07/21/2007 4:28:54 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks, jaz! I swear some people are so busy looking for the negative they can’t see something positive staring them in the face.


19 posted on 07/21/2007 4:29:58 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

You’re right, Red. I guess anything that has NY Times on it makes a lot of people instantly blind and they probably don’t even read the piece but this piece is definitely positive.


20 posted on 07/21/2007 4:43:28 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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