Posted on 07/20/2007 5:11:30 AM PDT by Mad Dawg
Let me tell you, I’m far from clueless regarding the 2nd Amendment Rights fight. You’re the clueless one if you think that standing up for your rights is the wrong way to go. Backing down is EXACTLY why our once Proud & Free country is in the shape that it’s in today. I AM A GROWNUP that fights on a daily basis for the 2nd Amendment.
If one reads the article before posts were made...
You got the wrong Rudder. All I asked was, ‘what is VCDL?’
Wow! How offensive!
The point being that I cannot read and comment on something about which I am poorly informed because of a self-absorbed writer who knows what he's talking about but is indifferent whether the audience does.
This is a common occurrence here, people get so fired up they run off in all directions.
There, that's my contribution, forward it to the author.
I have the utmost respect for cops since both my grandfather and father were Detroit officers. My dad retired as an executive lieutenant and was even an instructor at the Detroit Police Academy from around 1968 to about 1972. In the early 70's after my release from the Army, I was pulled over several times by both Detroit cops and State police on I-94 for speeding.
In all cases I was clearly over the legal limit in terms of alcohol. Every time these guys pulled me over they first read me the riot act then gave me a break because they knew my dad via reputation, working for him or was his student at the academy.
In the city of Detroit, these guys are truly the front line grunts when it comes to dealing with crime.
However, nowadays, I feel your same attitude and experience a lot of apprehension when the thought of these young guys pulling me over. Is it justified? I don't know but the last thing I am going to do is try to be a hard ass. For me its always yes sir and no sir and for the most part it has worked..........
Lots of my friends have always asked me why I never followed the footsteps of my grandfather and my dad and the only thing I could say was that I don't have the same tolerance of people as they did............
All I'm doing is putting up an email I got. It's important. Because it's an email, the writer has every right to think that we who subscribed to VCDL emails have some notion of what the VCDL is.
I erred in my comment by omitting to ID the VCDL but I really didn't think it was important. My Bad. To me what was important was the 2nd Amendment and VA laws about guns were being violate by cops -- and since I have been an LEO, been in fights, drawn my gun on a bad guy, blah blah blah, and I LOVE the cops I ministered to, I REALLY don't like it when cops break bad. So to me that was the issue: cops breaking bad and violating rights. That it happened to a VCDL guy and was written up by a VCDL guy just didn't seem all that important to me.
As I say, my bad, but NOT my VERY bad. If the cops violate Cindy Shehan's rights, I may giggle a little but I'll still be mad about it.
Is that more better?
>Lots of my friends have always asked me why I never followed the footsteps of my grandfather and my dad and the only thing I could say was that I don’t have the same tolerance of people as they did............<
Man oh man, do I ever know what you are talking about. I don’t have any patience at all these days when it comes to ‘youngsters’ under 30 that are constantly rude and misbehaving. So, I do my very best to avoid them.
your post was #217
"Until I can see evidence to the contrary I will continue to believe this was all part of an attempt to intimidate all VA CC licensees into surrendering their right to carry weapons in that jurisdiction."
Let's get real, most cops, especially higher ranking cops and commissioners, don't want ordinary citizens to carry guns. They want a monopoly on the use of armed force, but they're seldom around to use it for the victim's benefit when he or she runs into trouble. They know that if a legally armed person such as the victim in this instance is roughed up and given a hard time in a crowded public venue the rest of us will kowtow to their abuse of authority and surrender our right to bear arms just to avoid a similar incident.
If I had been the unfortunate victim of those cops who deliberately manhandled and humiliated an unresisting innocent man as an example to other CC licensees I would be on the phone to a good trial lawyer before I got home from the cop shop. I sincerely hope that any county or city official, sheriff, or police chief who authorized this intimidation tactic are thrown out of office at the next election when the public learns that their scheme cost the taxpayers a multi-million dollar award by a jury when this lawsuit goes to trial.
I wasn’t going to read 216 posts searching for the definition of whatever it is, would you? No, I opened the article, and there was one page of posts visible, beginning with No. 1. I read the article, then replied. Do you read the article and then all the replies before you reply? Recall these articles are written to inform, not puzzle.
There’s a link at the top of the page, if it were me I would have clicked on it and found out.
I understand and sympathize.
Great idea: Let’s just post links only.
Your really in a bad mood today aren’t you?
If you have a concealed-carry permit, then keep your weapon CONCEALED. Duh!
Not yet.
Terrible analogy. It assumes that the police have the force of law behind them, when in reality they were operating outside the law and had nothing but their own bravado to back them up.
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