Democrats want 'John Doe' provision cut

Washington Times ^ | July 19, 2007 | Audrey Hudson

[Verloona Ti]

Democrats want 'John Doe' provision cut

By Audrey Hudson

July 19, 2007

Democrats are trying to pull a provision from a homeland security bill that will protect the public from being sued for reporting suspicious behavior that may lead to a terrorist attack, according to House Republican leadership aides.

The legislation, which moves to a House and Senate conference committee this afternoon, will implement final recommendations from the 911 Commission.

Rep. Pete King, New York Republican and ranking member of the House Homeland Security Committee, and Rep. Steve Pearce, New Mexico Republican, sponsored the bill after a group of Muslim imams filed a lawsuit against U.S. Airways and unknown or “John Doe” passengers after they were removed for suspicious behavior aboard Flight 300 from Minneapolis to Phoenix on Nov. 20 before their removal.

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Republicans aides say they will put up a fight with Democrats when the conference committee begins at 1 p.m., to reinsert the language, but that public pressure is also needed.

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Similar thread on LGF

[Verloona Ti]

I have to leave, sorry to 'post and run' (I will check back later ASAP)-but I wanted to post this before I go, as it's important. Someone please post the requisite number and start putting on the pressure-hopefully to the "amnesty" level.

[weegee]

In a world where Islamonazis kidnap and behead their critics, there are bigger things to fear than lawsuits.

Personal safety is at stake.

LGF has already received numerous death threats.

[Verloona Ti]

I found this at LGF, if it helps:

Congress switchboard: 202-224-3121

Nancy Pelosi’s office: 202-225-4965

[Verloona Ti]

I am worried about ordinary citizens perhaps being too intimidated to report suspicious activity for fear of being sued, if that provision is removed.( Didn't that photo shop clerk hesitate to report what he found, for fear of being called 'racist'?) It may seem strange to suggest people would fear being sued more than being killed-but the former seems more likely to actually happen, to many people, and there are so many lawsuit horror stories. I hope enough pressure is put on to prevent the provision's stripping, which is why I am posting this and the numbers. If anyone has better numbers-eg, individual offices or FAX numbers, please post them.

Will check back in an hour or so.

[God luvs America]

“The legislation, which moves to a House and Senate conference committee this afternoon, will implement final recommendations from the 911 Commission.”.....

so murtha gave up his power??

[gemma0000]

"In a world where Islamonazis kidnap and behead their critics, there are bigger things to fear than lawsuits."

When "John Doe" becomes fearful of being sued for ratting out muslims he believes are up to no good, then the islamonazis goal of terrorizing us has been acheived. This would be two-fold coup for the islamofacists in America. One, it would represent to the islamic world that they have mastery over us. Two, it would muzzle our greatest resource against terrorism, a wary citizenry ready to report even the slightest suspicion of terrorism. The Democrats who want to scuttle this provision are cowardly to the bone.

[rod1]

This alone shows precisely whose side the democRATS are on.

[Eva]

Who is LGF?

[lovecraft]

I am worried about ordinary citizens perhaps being too intimidated to report suspicious activity for fear of being sued, if that provision is removed.

I also fear, people being harassed and intimidated just because somebody has a grudge against you. That's one tightrope walk on a slippery slope....definitely a tough nut to crack legislatively.

[MrB]

“citizens perhaps being too intimidated to report suspicious activity for fear of being sued”

which was the whole point of the “flying imams” stunt.

[Verloona Ti]

When "John Doe" becomes fearful of being sued for ratting out muslims he believes are up to no good, then the islamonazis goal of terrorizing us has been acheived. This would be two-fold coup for the islamofacists in America. One, it would represent to the islamic world that they have mastery over us. Two, it would muzzle our greatest resource against terrorism, a wary citizenry ready to report even the slightest suspicion of terrorism.

I totally agree with both your points. I do hope the democrats hear from angry citizens who NEED protection against "flying imans' hoping for a 'lawsuit lottery' to spread jihadism.

[agarrett]

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[Verloona Ti]

That's what I can't understand....WHY is "racism" so horrible (fear of which being the alleged basis for their opposition to King's provision) that they are willing to risk thousands of American citizens of any race being turned to shredded meat? The antics of the 'flying imans' went waaaay beyond simply praying, as the critics of this provision like to pretend-they deliberately mimicked the actions of the 9/11 hijackers, and whether it was a dry run, a simple attempt at getting money, or to terrify US citizens against reporting future suspicious activity I do not know, but I do believe we need this provision.

[longtermmemmory]

Democrat Slumber Party at work...

[Verloona Ti]

Little Green Footballs, which like Jihad Watch/Dhimmi Watch is a fine anti jihadist site.

[Verloona Ti]

I agree, and the fact that these creature’s know how easy it is to use the courts against us shows how much we need this provision. Ina sane world we would not, since the ‘flying iman’s’ case would have been laughed out of court-but we’re not living in a sane world , are we? (But the judge presiding over this case has so far shown little respect for PC nicities...It warmed my heart when he refused the iman’s request not to allow press coverage, in a ruling which had a snarky, sarcastic ring IMO.

[weegee]

Little Green Footballs’ blog. An Islamic fanatic at Reuters was among those who sent him a death threat.

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

Thanks for posting this.......

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[3AngelaD]

Republicans aides say they will put up a fight with Democrats when the conference committee begins at 1 p.m., to reinsert the language, but that public pressure is also needed.

Not good. Do we know who has been named to the conference committee?

[Verloona Ti]

I looked at the Jihad watch article on this issue, and at the LGF thread ditto-I didn't find names. BUT I did find this, which may be useful ( and a LGF poster says there have been a lot of calls re : the King provision, which is good news; his info was per a "snooty" Pelosi aide so it may be accurate rather than wishful thinking)PHONE NUMBERS: Speaker Pelosi:

Speaker’s Office: 202-225-0100

Personal Office: 202-225-4965

Homeland Security Committee Chairman Thompson:

Personal Office: 202-225-5876

Cmte Office: 202-226-2616

Rep. Van Hollen:

Personal Office: 202-225-5341:

Here is Michelle Malkin's take on all this; it has contact info too.