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Guns don't kill people, Phila. does
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Jul. 17, 2007 | John Lott, Maxim Lott

Posted on 07/17/2007 5:36:40 AM PDT by new cruelty

When Mayor Street spent 15 hours waiting in line for an iPhone recently, the city was not impressed by his love of new technology. Rather, Street had to answer to a passerby asking, "How can you sit here with 200 murders in the city already?"

Local politicians say they know the source of the problem: the lack of gun control. Gov. Rendell recently complained the state legislature "has been in the control of the NRA." Street blames the increasing murder rate on "the dangerous proliferation of guns on our city streets." Last Tuesday, two City Council members announced the novel legal tactic of suing the state government to let Philadelphia pass its own gun laws.

The desire "to do something" is understandable, but new gun laws aren't the answer.

In the five years from 2001 to 2006, Philadelphia's murder rate soared more than 36 percent while nationally, the murder rate increased only 2 percent. Indeed, only two other cities in the top 40 experienced a sharper rise in murder rates, according to FBI crime statistics.

But if the cause of more murders in Philadelphia is the lack of yet more gun control, why isn't murder increasing in the rest of Pennsylvania? Pittsburgh saw just a 7 percent increase.

Why haven't murder rates gone up in the rest of the country? Should Phoenix, the city closest in size to Philadelphia, claim that its murder rate remained virtually unchanged for the last five years because of the supposed lack of new gun control? How should Dallas explain its 24 percent drop in murder?

It is not that guns are more likely to be used in Philadelphia murders, either. The proportion of murders involving guns is similar to that of other cities.

It would appear that Philadelphia's problems have something to do with Philadelphia, not the lack of more gun control coming out of Washington or Harrisburg.

Could it be that Philadelphia simply isn't doing such a great job at law enforcement? Since 2001, Philadelphia's arrest rate for murder has fallen by 20 percent, according to the Pennsylvania Uniform Crime Reporting System. Nationally, and among cities with more than 250,000 people, arrest rates have remained virtually unchanged. It isn't so surprising that Philly's murder rate has gone up more than in other cities. After all, criminals are getting away with murder in Philadelphia.

Sure, Philadelphia has slightly fewer police than it had in 2001, but that drop is no different from the small drop that has occurred nationally. What is different is that Philadelphia has experienced a significant drop in arrests per officer relative to the rest of the country.

But it is not just a problem of police. The city is seeing lower conviction rates, and it is not keeping criminals in jail for very long. One could make up for this difference by hiring more police - research has shown the number of police officers to be the main factor in reducing crime. But Philadelphia's problem is how it uses the police it has.

Pointing to more gun-control laws as the solution is simply a way for politicians to pass the blame. Besides, such proposals offer little hope for actually reducing the murder rate. They've all been tried before, from one-gun-a-month limits and reporting stolen guns to the ultimate catchall - letting Philadelphia pass its own gun laws again.

Take the law that seems to be Rendell's favorite: the one-gun-a-month purchase rule. It would reduce the number of gun shows in the state by about 25 percent and shut some stores. But since just a fraction of one percent of criminals with guns get their weapons at gun shows, there would be few benefits from those restrictions. Collectors or those who might legitimately want to get more than one gun at a time are the ones who are inconvenienced. In fact, no published academic study by criminologists or economists shows that such limits reduce violent crime.

The sooner local politicians stop playing politics in the state Capitol and realize that the problem lies in the city's low rate of solving crimes, the sooner the problem will be under control. After all, Philadelphia's current gun laws are similar to those of many others around the country.

What is not the same? In Philadelphia, criminals are less likely to answer for their crimes.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; freedomnomics; gun; guncontrol; johnlott; philadelphia; rkba
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1 posted on 07/17/2007 5:36:43 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
Related thread:

Philly mayor John F. Street gets iPhone [And an earful from angry residents!]

 

2 posted on 07/17/2007 5:42:52 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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But if the cause of more murders in Philadelphia is the lack of yet more gun control, why isn't murder increasing in the rest of Pennsylvania? Pittsburgh saw just a 7 percent increase. Why haven't murder rates gone up in the rest of the country? Should Phoenix, the city closest in size to Philadelphia, claim that its murder rate remained virtually unchanged for the last five years because of the supposed lack of new gun control? How should Dallas explain its 24 percent drop in murder?
Please, stop.

The Mayor of Philadelphia is much too busy for all these pestering details.

He's got his new iPhone to attend to, after all.

3 posted on 07/17/2007 5:44:12 AM PDT by samtheman
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When Rendell was mayor of Philadelphia (right before John Street), the city was actually quite nice and safe. John Street let the place go to hell, and everyone who voted against him moved out.
4 posted on 07/17/2007 5:46:05 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: new cruelty
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5 posted on 07/17/2007 5:46:10 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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6 posted on 07/17/2007 5:46:47 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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7 posted on 07/17/2007 5:49:17 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: new cruelty
THAT was in the Phila. Inquirer?

Excuse me, but I have to get my Belgian Browning and go outside to watch for flying pigs. Surely there will be a pig pickin’ tonight!

8 posted on 07/17/2007 5:50:28 AM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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Phila has slid in the sh*tter since Street took office. I can tell by the type of people and the amount of litter laying around in previously nice areas. It used to be confined to parts in the North around old 611 and the West, but now its creeping up along Rt. 1 into the Northeast. My inlaws old neighborhood in Olney is turning into a hell-hole.

Street has told the cops and judges to keep off the blacks, regardless of what they do.


9 posted on 07/17/2007 5:51:06 AM PDT by kidao35
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When Rendell was mayor, we had an excellent chief of police. Now we don’t. He is not getting the job done; I don’t know how he keeps his job.


10 posted on 07/17/2007 5:52:17 AM PDT by twigs
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How should Dallas explain its 24 percent drop in murder?

Very simple.
Capital Punishment.
11 posted on 07/17/2007 5:52:43 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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Hard to believe, but its true. Not that it will amount to much. If anything, the mayor, police commissioner and district attorney will probably cast themselves as the victims and issue some sort of rebuttal, dimissing this editorial as right-wing propaganda, and the exact reason why the city must seize all guns in order to save lives. That will be enough to sate the masses and then everything will be right (or left) with their world.


12 posted on 07/17/2007 5:56:43 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Exactly.

Death penalty for murder is the way to stop murder.

Gun control is the way to abrogate the 2nd amendment.


13 posted on 07/17/2007 5:58:05 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Capital punishment may not be a deterrent, but it sure cuts down on the recidivism rate.


14 posted on 07/17/2007 5:58:11 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: twigs

sylvester and streety must be good chums.


15 posted on 07/17/2007 6:01:03 AM PDT by new cruelty
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16 posted on 07/17/2007 6:01:23 AM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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Bla bla bla, yadda yadda yadda, bla bla bla.


17 posted on 07/17/2007 6:05:30 AM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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But political correctness! political correctness!!!

Street has told the cops and judges to keep off the blacks, regardless of what they do.

Time and time again, thats what it boils down to. shhhh. we are not supposed to talk about it. Just let it happen.

Sounds like your mayor has gotten some lessons in leadership from Ray Nagin.
18 posted on 07/17/2007 6:06:45 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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You could be right. I don’t know anything about the politics of that relationship.


19 posted on 07/17/2007 6:07:00 AM PDT by twigs
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Very simple. Capital Punishment.

"A lot of states are abolishing the death penalty. My state is putting in an express lane..." Ron White-

20 posted on 07/17/2007 6:09:25 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Made in China: Treat those three words like a warning label)
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