Posted on 07/13/2007 9:11:02 AM PDT by kawaii
Yes, in ohio
The Iroquois’ influence was nil. The people who wrote our constitution were very specific as to their sources. Go back to books prior to about 1930...when historians revamped history royally.
From the published writings of the period; pamphlets, circular letters, records of debate, newspaper articles, memoirs, collected correspondence, etc.
The Founders came from a highly literate society, it smells fishy to me that these revisionist historians are unable to cite more than vague passing references in the published record of the period to support their “Iroquois Origins” theory of American federalism.
I do know the founders cite numerous classical sources and examples of constitutional arrangements in antiquity; republics, democracies, monarchies, oligarchies, etc.
The classical examples and the memory of English constitutional history; the English Civil War, the English Bill of Rights, the Glorious Revolution, etc., were foremost in their minds, giving us the “mixed” republican system we have.
The revisionists are simply a species of professional malcontents, dissatisfied with current arrangements and their place in the scheme of things, ie., marginal.
Their only source of satisfaction is p*ssing in the soup!
BTW The first home settled in the conneticut western reserve (ohio) is in my hometown
Thanks.
From reading his all I can gather is that they set up rules to govern their Iroquois confederacy.
This is hardly novel and breath-taking since every community does this.
Did the revisionists read this, b/c I can’t find too much information, if any, that would convince me that our system of gov’t derived from the Iroquois.
Our system of government under the Articles of Confederation could plausibly reflect Iroquois influence, even though I think the idea of little republics was of Hebraic-Greek influence.
But Constitutional gov’t - that’s a stretch I think.
Psychologically suspect Europeans who filtered myth and oral history into a "noble savage" fantasy, doesn't quite do it for me.
Too many whites who love recreational drugs have forged far too many fantasies to take this stuff seriously.
” I highly doubt that the founding fathers were wowed by the algonquin round table “
Maybe is was Algonquin Algorithms or Algonquin
Al Gore isms...........
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Are you saying they didn't?
We all know from revisionist history that evil white Europeans traveled through a peaceful world bringing murder and mayhem wherever they settled, overthrowing complex structured native societies, bringing down their vast centuries old archives of learning in centuries old universities carved out of mountains, to make aggregate for roads.
/s I think
How cool. I have an old Map showing all the original paths etc. and the original lines. It has Hutchins signature. Which Township and range are you in?
I referenced the Algonquin round table. I was taught that this was the place of the meeting of iroquois nations.
I have just learned today that it was a movement by literary types that started in the 20’s
That would pinpoint your rewriting of history. It seems to trace back to these artsy fartsy liberal literary types
Then, during the Fouth of July holiday, they sell fireworks all over the reservation because it is part of their "culture".
I didn't know they invented gunpowder.
Canfield township in the Mahoning county
Especially since they were all dead for about a hundred years or more when the all-white Algonquin Round Table convened in a NYC hotel in the early 1920's.
Harpo Marx was usually there though, so it's likely influenced the script of "Duck Soup."
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Posted by mylife to Sacajaweau
On News/Activism 07/13/2007 11:55:13 AM CDT · 50 of 50
I referenced the Algonquin round table. I was taught that this was the place of the meeting of iroquois nations.
I have just learned today that it was a movement by literary types that started in the 20’s
Thank you for the recommendation.
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