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McCain clashes with Voinovich [McCain in "serious fight," "brawl" with Voinovich over Iraq]
Politico ^ | 7/10/07

Posted on 07/10/2007 6:10:14 PM PDT by bnelson44

Fresh off a trip to Iraq, a visibly tired McCain lit into the "liberal left" for advocating retreat in Iraq and then went behind closed doors to brawl with a fellow GOP senator over the war.

In what one senator called "the most serious fight that I have seen in my time in the Senate," McCain clashed with Sen. George Voinovich (R-Ohio) over the Arizona senator's assertion that the most dangerous threat facing U.S. troops in Iraq was Al Qaeda members.

Voinovich, who recently urged President Bush to change his war policy now, shot back that Al Qaeda "wouldn't be in Iraq" if American forces weren't there, according to people who witnessed the exchange.

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"I've seen this movie before from the liberal left in America, who share no responsibility for what happened in Cambodia when we said no while that mission was still in its early stages," McCain said of the secret U.S. invasion of Cambodia in 1970. Congress later blocked President Richard Nixon from further conducting military actions against Cambodia.

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TOPICS: Extended News; US: Arizona; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: iraq; mccain; voinovich
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1 posted on 07/10/2007 6:10:17 PM PDT by bnelson44
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To: SandRat; Allegra

Fresh off a trip to Iraq, a visibly tired McCain lit into the “liberal left” for advocating retreat in Iraq and then went behind closed doors to brawl with a fellow GOP senator over the war.

In what one senator called “the most serious fight that I have seen in my time in the Senate,” McCain clashed with Sen. George Voinovich (R-Ohio) over the Arizona senator’s assertion that the most dangerous threat facing U.S. troops in Iraq was Al Qaeda members.

Voinovich, who recently urged President Bush to change his war policy now, shot back that Al Qaeda “wouldn’t be in Iraq” if American forces weren’t there, according to people who witnessed the exchange.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0707/4870.html


2 posted on 07/10/2007 6:12:17 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: bnelson44

‘shot back that Al Qaeda “wouldn’t be in Iraq” if American forces weren’t there, according to people who witnessed the exchange.’

He’s right, they’d be here.


3 posted on 07/10/2007 6:14:10 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: bnelson44

give credit where credit is due...he might be wrong on immigration, but he’s 100% right on Iraq. Despite disagreements with McCain, we should be supportive of his strong stance on Iraq. He should do more of this, and in the public eye. He’s ten times the military man Murtha is, perhaps the media will give his pov some attention.


4 posted on 07/10/2007 6:14:31 PM PDT by enough_idiocy (Just like against terrorism, in politics you can't be on the defensive all the time!!!!)
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To: bnelson44

Al Qaeda “wouldn’t be in Iraq” if American forces weren’t there. . .

He might be right! They might have been in New Jersey, and New York, and Delaware, and . . .


5 posted on 07/10/2007 6:15:03 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: bnelson44
Voinovich, who recently urged President Bush to change his war policy now, shot back that Al Qaeda “wouldn’t be in Iraq” if American forces weren’t there, according to people who witnessed the exchange.

And Hitler never would have taken over Europe if not for the Treaty of Versailles, so we should have given up due to that stupid mistake. Voinovich should change parties and run with Cindy Sheehan.

6 posted on 07/10/2007 6:15:19 PM PDT by oldleft
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To: bnelson44

If you agree with McCain, you might let him know.

http://mccain.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm?ID=64


7 posted on 07/10/2007 6:16:50 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: traderrob6
He’s right, they’d be here

I was just going to quote him and comment the same. Voinovich is an idiot.

8 posted on 07/10/2007 6:16:54 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.youtube.com/CafeNetAmerica)
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To: bnelson44
Voinovich following the party lines...err, he's not a Democrat?

If there is to be a change in strategy, then I say "let the dogs (military) loose" and kill the bastards.

9 posted on 07/10/2007 6:17:11 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Soon to be Fredbacker1)
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To: the_Watchman
They might have been in New Jersey, and New York, and Delaware, and . . .

They're already there!

10 posted on 07/10/2007 6:18:22 PM PDT by airborne (COULTER: Actually, my favorite candidate is [Rep.] Duncan Hunter [R-CA], and he is magnificent.)
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To: bnelson44

good for mccain

voinovich is a spineless weeney


11 posted on 07/10/2007 6:19:04 PM PDT by incredulous joe (Vote for Christian Bagge - www.energizerkeepgoinghalloffame.com)
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To: bnelson44

I hope he doesn’t get Voinovich crying again....

Voinovich is such a dumb $hit cry baby - one wonders how the fool ever fooled the voters in his state...


12 posted on 07/10/2007 6:20:52 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: bnelson44
Any one from Ohio that will tell Voinovich that he is an al-Qaeda supporter and a TRAITOR, since they will not read letters or emails from people outside their states?
13 posted on 07/10/2007 6:21:44 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: bnelson44
Well done Senator McCain! Well done. I respect the man's intensity on this issue.

We must (our base must) defend our warriors down range flanks from the DEMs/MSM.

We need to keep up the intensity. We need to let all GOP Congress members understand...We will not allow them to cut and run on our warriors. We will not fail.

14 posted on 07/10/2007 6:21:49 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To not give the troops at least until September to show results of “the surge” would be an outrage. The dammed dems were gleefully declaring defeat nearly a month ago. Where in the hell are the people in DC who are supposed to be defending the mission of the troops?!?!

It’s as if all of the people who should be advocating the right thing are asleep at the wheel, and the dems, along with the media are controlling 100% of the message and the agenda. Even the White House, as usual, seem to be caught back on their heals right now.


15 posted on 07/10/2007 6:21:51 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: traderrob6

Bingo!


16 posted on 07/10/2007 6:23:22 PM PDT by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: bnelson44
Voinovich... shot back that Al Qaeda "wouldn't be in Iraq" if American forces weren't there...

NO KIDDING JACKASS, they'd be in Omaha, where AMERICAN CIVILIANS ARE!

Is it not better to attract them to where those best equipped to confront them are?

17 posted on 07/10/2007 6:23:58 PM PDT by infidel29 (Amnesia International: Forget about the atrocities of the left, they meant well.)
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To: bnelson44
Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), John McCain (R-AZ) and Mitch McConnell (R-KY) talk to reporters on Congressional news, Iraq and other topics.
18 posted on 07/10/2007 6:23:58 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: bnelson44
"I've seen this movie before from the liberal left in America, who share no responsibility for what happened in Cambodia when we said no while that mission was still in its early stages," McCain said of the secret U.S. invasion of Cambodia in 1970.

McCain is right on here. The radical left has never accepted responsibility for their role in allowing that slaughter.

19 posted on 07/10/2007 6:24:02 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: enough_idiocy
I agree with you on McCain. Also, Voinovich sounded like an idiot being interviewed by Sean Hannity.
20 posted on 07/10/2007 6:24:09 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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