Posted on 07/10/2007 9:06:01 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
You said that Thompson’s primary advisors are ALL old Reagan folks.
Pure, unadulterated baloney.
I read Vigurie's commentary earlier on today...didn't think it was worthy of remark.
This business of having a ''perfect'' candidate is, in my view, self-defeating, and gives away an enormous advantage to the socialists, one which I'm NOT willing to concede.
ANYONE who has spent time in D.C. is, in a ''true American'' sense, somewhat polluted. To expect conservative perfection from any such person strikes me as simply unrealistic.
The only part of Mr. Thompson's curriculum vitae that troubles me is his (no idea how long) affiliation with CFR. This is dangerous, in my view.
At the moment, I'll support Fred (said as much in public on eeevil conservative's radio programme this past Saturday).
However, does it not strike you, as a practical man, that the whole purpose of these enormously extended campaigns is to whittle down the support of a reasonable American candidate?
The longer the campaign, would you not agree, the more ultimate influence the leftist-controlled and generally anti-American ''traditional'' media have? Chip, chip, chip away at a reasonably American candidate while simultaneously pump, pump, pump the socialist candidate(s)?
Well, perhaps I'm wrong, but that's the way it appears to me.
FReegards!
Darn, it's tough being driven around, being fawned over all day, flatulating out your mouth all day, eating at 5-star restaurants as partial payoff from lobbyists, golfing at Congressional, getting a massage from a call girl at night, flying first class on the airlines. Being a Senator is REALLY a grind.
How could Thompson be any more feckless, worthless, and corrupt than any of the rest of them? Gimme a break.
I will say that he's probably about as conservative as Bush, meaning NOT conservative, but a conservative disaster. But he's no pariah.
Are you really carrying on this BS over the word “most”? You really want to split hairs over his being Republican for a few more years (some of them without knowing it) than Democrat? This is the basis upon which you claim I told an untruth? You must be kidding me!
I said he started as a DEMOCRAT. TRUE - A California Democrat - TRUE which became a California Republican - TRUE - who was liberal on some things, naming his early positions on abortion and his late positions on gun control - TRUE... and because I didn’t look up how many years he was which, you claim I’m misleading?
I pointed out that Reagan was NO hard right-wing conservative with no liberal leanings. That is TRUE!
End of discussion...
that’s not really fair..
there is nothing wrong with supporting Hunter
and yes I believe Hunter is more conservative....no question
I like Tanc too
but Fred may end up having to do....I wish he would firm up
i just read he is hiring matalin.....bad move
he should shed himself of the old soft GOP/RINOs
Fred wants to really fire up his base he needs to move to the right
I read earlier that he thinks Newt is going to get in in late fall and sweep the primaries.
I think he must be getting old or is on crack.
I was just pointing out the dishonesty of someone trying to paint a picture for the unwitting that somehow Fred is surrounded by Reagan advisors. A couple may have worked on the periphery as low-level staffers or whatever, but the bulk of them could hardly be considered anything of the sort. Most of these people are too young.
Notice how vague they are about what their role was in the Reagan administration? That should be a clue.
Me: I really think you'd have a hard time objectively substantiating that assertion.
You: No I wouldn’t, but you need Thompson to do it, not me...
I asked you to substantiate YOUR unsupported assertion, not any claim by Thompson. You refused, even though you imply that it would be easy for you to do.
Go ahead, line them up, issue by issue and you'll still miss the key distinction that separates these two men. What Reagan had that Thompson lacks is genuine moral courage. Talk is cheap, especially in politics. Reagan took on the Soviets while Thompson shrunk from putting his neck on the line over Chinagate. When it came time for Fred to shine, he slunk into the shadows instead of calling out John Glenn for the cheap sellout that he is. Therefore I do not trust Fred Thompson to do the right thing when the going gets tough.
There's a war on. At stake is the survival of this nation and the free world with it. Fred hasn't shown me that he's capable of meeting the minimum requirements under fire. By contrast, as an Army Ranger Duncan Hunter showed that he is willing to lay his life on the line for this country. We should expect nothing less of a President. The stakes are that high.
Finally, you assert that Thompson made it in "the private sector." You call a former Senator lobbying the Federal government equivalent to private industry? Really?
My BS meter just pegged; you're a shill, and not a terribly clever one at that.
Quit.
You’re depressing me.
McIntosh might come closer than most to earning the title “advisor.” Not that he was very high up on the food chain.
Again, you LIE and intentionally mislead...
“Matalin was a low-level staffer with the RNC back then.”
Matalin joined the first Reagan campaign working at the RNC, then became a trust campaign advisor and policy writer in his re-election campaign and beyond. She then became a member of Reagan’s VP’s campaign and staff, Bush I.
“Baker was the king of the Senate RINOs.”
Baker was Reagan’s CHIEF OF STAFF and trusted advior until Reagan’s death.
“Thatcher is a former head of a foreign power.”
Thatcher was Reagan’s closest freind and most trusted ally in the world. Thompson recently returned from an ADVICE visit with Thatcher and continues communication for advisory purposes.
Where are you getting your information that Rumsfeld is an advisor to Thompson?
Rumsfeld and Thompson have been freinds since the Reagan years.
Gingrich still has delusions about running himself.
Gingrich pulled back on running the second Thompson agreed to run. Since that day, Gingrich has been providing policy advice to Thompson.
Your claim has proven to be a steaming pile of BS, frankly.
You are both a fool and a liar!
I have pretended to be nobody special. Just someone obviously better informed than you, which isn’t saying much, and someone willing to call you on your repeated lies.
The record shows clearly which of us is full of BS....
I’m happy to stand by my posts. You are still running from yours.
Where’s that evidence that Thompson wants the states to continue killing innocent babies?
If you want to post falsehoods and not be held accountable for it, you're on the wrong political website. On Free Republic we stick to the facts. FReepers do not post falsehoods.
>>>>>End of discussion...
Guess its time for you to run and hide. LOL
I don't have a dog in this fight because it is far too early for me, but this statement jumped out at me.
Fred Thompson wa a lawyer and a lobbyist BEFORE he became a Senator, thus in the private sector.
People (in general, not directed at anyone in particular) love to throw out the word "lobbyist" as if it were an evil thing. It's not. Each and everyone of us who has ever called or written any of our elected officials, or even contacted bureaucrats on an issue are acting as lobbyists, unpaid yes, but it is still lobbying.
ROFL...
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