This lead balloon from the NCIS ain't flying. Nobody sees any convictions coming out of this, but Marines may be dragged into Article 32s.
The biggest loser in all this will probably be Cpl. Ryan Weemer. He's a good man who served his country and made the mistake of trusting NCIS agents. The result is broken bonds with his brothers from the worst fighting the Corps has known since Hue City.
BTW, Nat Helms' story, mentioned above, was posted on Free Republic about five minutes after I posted it on DefendOurMarines.com. The thread is at the link: New charges arising from action in Fallujah!: Deja vu all over again.
1 posted on
07/07/2007 3:57:51 PM PDT by
RedRover
To: 4woodenboats; aculeus; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ...
Ping!Paul Hackett, by the by, was the attorney for Capt. James Kimber who was part of the Haditha investigation but was not charged.
2 posted on
07/07/2007 4:03:13 PM PDT by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ...
9 posted on
07/07/2007 5:47:13 PM PDT by
freema
(Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, NIECE)
To: RedRover
Me Lie 2 is falling apart like a puptent. The only liars are Turda and his felonious reporters. If they hadn’t tried to Nam this incident it would have been dropped months ago.
Pray for W and Our Troops
10 posted on
07/07/2007 5:53:27 PM PDT by
bray
(Member of the FR President Bush underground)
To: RedRover; All
Any bets on how long till the "Marines who have been interviewed, read their rights but not yet charged" are leaked?
We already know it's the 3/1, and they've already tied 2 to the incident, so we know it's a when, not an if.
This sucks.
15 posted on
07/07/2007 6:48:58 PM PDT by
4woodenboats
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: RedRover
. . .there are some decisions made in battle that are not perfect and are not right," he said. "But ultimately, I would ask every American who wants to second-guess the decisions of their young men fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan if they would rather have their sons come home in a body bag.There is a textbook answer for right and wrong that doesn't always translate to the real world.
That is the solid bottom line here. Those who cannot find the 'Reason' to agree with this truth are fooling themselves into imagining they are searching for Justice.
They should look again - at their own motives. But of course, they will not.
16 posted on
07/07/2007 7:35:23 PM PDT by
cricket
To: RedRover
Nathaniel Helms wrote a very good article on this incident. From his article, posted at Defend our Marines and on FR,
The Iraqi civilians allegedly gunned down at Fallujah were captured while hiding in an abandoned house in close proximity to a recent firefight, he admitted. It was a common tactic of the insurgents to fire upon advancing Marines from one position, put down their weapons, and then run to another position and take up arms secreted there to resume the fight, he said. At the time the Marine's Rules of Engagement prevented Marines from shooting unarmed Iraqis observed fleeing areas where fire was coming down......
....If the alleged shootings had happened a few days later there might not have been an investigation. Two days after the alleged incident the ROE at Fallujah was "liberalized" to allow fleeing Iraqis to be killed if they refused to stop. It was only the beginning. By the end of the fight the rules for killing insurgents were extremely liberal, Marines who were there agree. Fallujah gave a whole new meaning to the word, one of them said.
This is war. The ROE's were adjusted two days later because they weren't working against the enemy. I certainly hope none of these Marines are put through an article 32 on this kind of technicality.
19 posted on
07/07/2007 8:18:29 PM PDT by
Girlene
To: RedRover
27 posted on
07/08/2007 7:34:10 AM PDT by
Girlene
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