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Bush won't supply subpoenaed documents [asserted executive privilege......]
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Posted on 06/28/2007 6:31:40 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Tinian
How about it is a conventional idiocy and delusion.
21 posted on 06/28/2007 7:40:23 AM PDT by jveritas (Support the Commander in Chief in Times of War.)
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To: Emrys

Amen.


22 posted on 06/28/2007 7:41:18 AM PDT by jveritas (Support the Commander in Chief in Times of War.)
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To: Ikemeister

Saw this posted on here a few days ago...it was written in response to the immigration issue, but it looks like you need to read it too...

“For a while now, and really, since shortly after the 2004 election, I have gotten emails from folks who say, “Bush forgot that you have to dance with the one that brung you.” They’ve been sending me that message for so long, on so many different issues, that I suspect Bush feels a little like a girl who is invited to a fancy ball - and proves to be excellent company for most of the night, despite being hated by many of the guests – but manages to fall out of step, at which point she is abandoned on the dance floor and told to find her own way home.

Betrayal is such a strong word; did he betray you, really?

—Did he protect us from the reach & province of the International Criminal Court? Yes.
—Did he keep us from the Kyoto mess that is currently tying up Europe? Yes.
—Did he create a workable alternative to Kyoto that other countries have embraced? Yes. Bet you didn’t know that!
—Have US Carbon Emissions decreased on his watch, without Kyoto? Yes.
—Did he submit a comprehensive energy plan that got killed by a weak congress? Yes.
—Has he lowered the deficit ahead of schedule in time of war? Yes. Even the NYTimes admits it!
—Did he cut taxes? Twice? Yes. And yes.
—Did he try to get the cuts made permanent? Yes. Congress dropped that ball.
—Did he stop government funding of EMBRYONIC stem cell research? Yes.
—Has he kept the promises he made as he held a dead cop’s shield before the Joint Houses? Yes.
—Did he go after the Taliban and AlQaeda in Afghanistan barely a month after 9/11? Yes.
—Has he been unflagging in his efforts to subdue terrorism, worldwide? Yes.
—Has be been the consistent voice for human liberty around the globe? Yes.
—After some serious missteps, is the surge working? Yes.
—Has he been a staunch friend to Israel, the only stable democracy in a frantic region? Yes.
—Did he end the farce of world-wide Arafat admiration? Yes
—Did he remove Saddam Hussein, whose state supported terrorists, from power? Yes.
—Did he invade Iraq at a time when the whole world believed Saddam had and “would use” WMD? Yes.
—Did he bring a much-maligned coalition with him? Yes. Some are still there.
—Did he liberate 50,000 people in keeping with the ideals of the 1998 Iraqi Liberation Act? Yes.
—Has he inspired the Iraqi people to finally believe enough in freedom to fight AlQaeda with us? YES!
—Has he figured out that a free and engaged Middle East makes America safer? Yes.
—Has he kept you safe since 9/11? So safe that you’ve almost forgotten to fear? Yes.
—Did he remove “the wall” between the CIA and the FBI? Yes.
—Did he go to the UN before invading Iraq? Yes.
—Did he tell the UN that the US would never ask permission to defend herself? Yes.
—Didd he inspire Libya to surrender it’s WMD without firing a shot? Yes.
—Did he appoint excellent SCOTUS and Federal Judges to the bench? Yes.
—Did he implement the NSA terrorist eavesdropping program? Yes.
—Did he immediately move to freeze assets and make terror funding more difficult? Yes.
—Did he reform Medicare? Yes.
—Did he reform Social Security to give you more power over your money? He tried. See Congress.
—Did he manage an economy thru recession, terror attack & war w/ consistent gains for over ten quarters? Yes.
—Has he kept unemployment between 5.5% and 4.4% for an impressive period? Yes.
—Does he say what he means and mean what he says? Yes.
—Did he try to address immigration last year, when the houses in his party? Yes.
—Does he support the second amendment? Yes.
—Does he support school vouchers and school choice? Yes.
—Did he sign the ban on Partial Birth Abortion? Yes. It went to court, but he signed it.
—Did he reverse Clinton’s intent to kill Reagan’s pro-life Mexico policy? Yes.
—Did he support the Defense of Marriage Act? Yes. That used to be vitally important to you.
—Did he expand the roles of faith-based organizations in social programs? Yes.
—Did he prosecute the white-collar criminals like Ken Lay who ran riot through the ‘90’s? Yes.
—Has he handled himself with enormous courage, dignity and grace in the face of world/media/hate? YES
—Is he a man with a creed before he’s anything else? Yes.
—Did he establish Health Savings accounts? Yes.
—Did he have the Border Patrol installing monitoring devices along the borders? Yes.
—Has he made mistakes? Yes. Some undeniable beauts.
—Has he been an imperfect president? Yes.
—Has he spent too much? Probably.
—Has he given you most of what you’ve wanted? Actually, looking at the list…yes!
—Has he dared to disagree with anyone to keep his principles, even you? Yes.

Has he really been your Judas? Has he really betrayed you?

Did he ever question your patriotism, or tell you you were a bad person? No, actually, he didn’t. Go read his remarks in context, instead of looking at one sentence blared at you by the very media you distrust. Be intellectually honest enough to admit that in this immigration controversy there are (sadly) some who are using fear to move their agenda, and there are some (only some, but they hurt us all) who reveal bigotry in their rants. You needn’t be offended if you can remember that there are those “somes” in every group; conservatives have no corner of perfection. You actually do have a choice as to how you receive what you hear, see and read, just as you have a choice as to how you receive a good, that is, with “open” or “closed” heart.

http://theanchoressonline.com/page/2/


23 posted on 06/28/2007 7:43:51 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Sub-Driver

Leahy will inevitably pursue this in the courts. When he does I hope the President will have the fortitude to deal with that treasonous $#!+head from Vermont in the same way Lincoln dealt with former Congressman Clement Vallandigham. The time has long-since passed for Demonrat agents of treason to pay a price.


24 posted on 06/28/2007 7:48:51 AM PDT by California Desert Rat (Al Qaeda's fiduciary agent in the U-S: the Democratic National Committee)
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To: ravingnutter

Bump for the anchoress. I often find much wisdom in her words and hope that the health issues she’d been having are much improved.


25 posted on 06/28/2007 10:33:46 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD --- VOTE FOR FRED!!.)
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To: jveritas
People have already forgotten the backbone of STEEL George Bush showed just a few weeks ago when he faced down the Dems on the troop funding bill.

Sheesh. The President has got PLENTY of backbone.

26 posted on 06/28/2007 10:38:09 AM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up
Of course they will forget because they HATE the President. They hate him as much as any left wing lunatic. Do you know how many of them were upset because the President won the war funding bill? A lot, lot, lot of them.

Human nature is very dark FRiend, and on this forum there is a good number of people who want us defeated in Iraq simply because they hate President Bush.

27 posted on 06/28/2007 10:54:27 AM PDT by jveritas (Support the Commander in Chief in Times of War.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

>>About damn time he’s shown some backbone.<<

These claims are not about whether he violated rules. They are about whether he violated the law and the constitution. That’s an important distinction.

If this President and all future Presidents are above congressional investigations into alleged criminal and/or unconstitutional activity that will change our fundamental system of government.

I think that would be bad.

I think the President is taking us down a bad path with this.


28 posted on 06/28/2007 10:56:23 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: ravingnutter

Standing ovation to your post my fellow FReeper :)


29 posted on 06/28/2007 10:56:35 AM PDT by jveritas (Support the Commander in Chief in Times of War.)
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To: Nervous Tick
Ditto that. I have to keep reminding myself that he has done a lot of good during his two terms.
30 posted on 06/28/2007 10:58:06 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: Sub-Driver

Maybe if Bush hears the term “executive privledge” often enough he just might start acting like an executive.


31 posted on 06/28/2007 11:02:49 AM PDT by berstbubble
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To: ravingnutter
Has he really been your Judas? Has he really betrayed you?

Yup. Quisling probably did all sorts of great things for Norway, before he let the Germans in. After that it didn't matter. Abetting and legalizing an invasion of 12-20 million is hardly different than Quisling, and for motives no less ignoble.

If Bush is looking for The Base to support him on this subpoena thing, he has another thing coming. The Base is smarting too much from Bush's thumb in our eye to man the barricades in his defense.

32 posted on 06/28/2007 11:08:33 AM PDT by Plutarch (Bush is a coward to the left and a tyrant to the right.)
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To: Sub-Driver
I still don't understand why they didn't just say "fogedaboutit" when this whole thing started. There can be nothing criminal about firing people you had a right to hire and fire.

vaudine

33 posted on 06/28/2007 11:11:44 AM PDT by vaudine (RO)
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To: Sub-Driver

Good for Dubya.
It’s about time he stopped grabbing his ankles for the scumbag Democrats.


34 posted on 06/28/2007 11:12:47 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Sub-Driver

You can’t accommodate an enemy who wants your head on a platter.


35 posted on 06/28/2007 11:13:18 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: vaudine

BUMP what you said.

I am still mystified that on Day One of this fabricated “fired US Attorneys scandal” Bush didn’t simply laugh in the Democrats’ faces and tell them to go play in the street (”Nobody is testifying at your circus, your subpoenas are going straight into the trash can, and by the way I just fired five more US Attorneys because it’s Thursday.”). Instead, Bush sent Gonzales off on an apology tour and then fed him to the Senate jackals.

It’s a little late in the game but maybe Bush is finally growing some spine.


36 posted on 06/28/2007 11:20:00 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jveritas
Of course they will forget because they HATE the President. They hate him as much as any left wing lunatic

A mob mentality is alive and well these days among the right.

37 posted on 06/28/2007 11:21:43 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Sub-Driver

Leahy can not access classified data. That is why he was removed from the House Intel committee in 1960. They had to as the Intel community told congress they would not do any more briefings with him on the committee.
I honestly believe he was directly responsible for a number of our troops death because of his spilling intel secrets to the public. Like Hatch terminating our monitoring of OBL’ cell by telling the world what we were doing.


38 posted on 06/28/2007 11:49:11 AM PDT by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: Sub-Driver

Mr. President, you have alienated this former supporter by attempting to ram this immigration bill up my a** and then slandered me for resisting it. You will have to fight this battle, and all the remaining battles of your Presidency, with no support from me.

When we needed you to defend the Constitution, enforce the laws, and secure our borders, you abandoned us. Now I abandon you.


39 posted on 06/28/2007 12:41:53 PM PDT by dez (Giving resident visas to illegals is like giving car thieves legal title to the cars they steal)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Yep, backbone. But after spitting in his base’s faces on the Kennedy Amnesty Bill, Bush can’t expect much support when he in under attack in anything else. Talk about energetic self-destruction of an Administration.

Bush: “My legacy? Why the destruction of the Republican Party of course!”


40 posted on 06/28/2007 1:39:42 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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