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How the GOP Could Win
realclearpolitics.com ^ | June 26, 2007 | Richard Cohen

Posted on 06/25/2007 10:21:49 PM PDT by neverdem

There are two ways to predict the winner of the 2008 presidential race: Check the polls or read some history. The polls tell you that with George Bush's approval ratings abysmally low, with the war in Iraq becoming increasingly unpopular, with the GOP lacking a dominant candidate, and with the party divided over immigration, social issues and even religion (Mitt Romney's Mormonism), the next president is bound to be a Democrat. History begs to differ.

The history I have in mind is 1972. By the end of that year, 56,844 Americans had been killed in Vietnam, a war that almost no one thought could still be won and which no...

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Precisely right, Joe. But more than right, prescient as well. As if to suggest what an issue this will become, Rudolph Giuliani called Clinton's vote a "significant flip-flop.'' Since then the Republicans have mostly trained their fire on each other. You can bet, though, that if Clinton gets the nomination, this vote will be hung around her neck and the hoariest of cliches will be trotted out: weak on defense. It will have added resonance because Clinton is a woman.

This is where history raises it ugly head. The GOP is adept at painting Democrats as soft on national security. It is equally adept at saying so in the most scurrilous way. And while most Americans would like the war to end, they do not favor a precipitous withdrawal and neither have they forgotten Sept. 11, 2001 -- the entirety of Giuliani's case for the presidency, after all.

Will History trump the polls? It will, if as in the past, the Democratic Party so wounds itself fighting the war against the war, it nominates a candidate beloved by a minority but mistrusted by a majority. It has happened before.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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To: neverdem

This article is just “grabbing at straws” in trying to find something positive to say about anything! The U.S. will soon be a third world country forever, and there’s nothing that anyone can seriously do about this to prevent it from happening. “Shamnesty legislation” and the creation of the very socialistic “North American Union” will both keep being brought back again and again until they both eventually pass Congress and are officially signed into law by President Bush. Even conservatism will be dead soon, thanks to endless waves of pro-socialistic illegals who are quickly made to vote throughout the U.S.. Unless we all have another civil war and physically remove by force from office all pro-amnesty politicians, there’s truly no longer any decent future left for the entire U.S. as a country. The present U.S. government also seriously needs to be sued by all law abiding citizens and by all law abiding legal immigrants because the U.S. government has just discriminated against them for many generations to come!


41 posted on 06/26/2007 10:18:29 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: neverdem
Explain to me again why we would want the GOP to win.

I'm a little fuzzy on that.
42 posted on 06/26/2007 10:50:27 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Iwo Jima
Explain to me again why we would want the GOP to win.

Do you want the neocoMs to win and become a dhimmi?

43 posted on 06/26/2007 11:11:47 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
OK, it seems to me that the options that you are presenting are as follows:

No. 1: We can destroy America and every freedom that she holds dear by voting Republican.

OR No. 2 we can destroy America and every freedom that she stands for by voting Democrat.

Please forgive me for not agreeing to destroy America regardless of who gets the blame/credit for doing so.

Is there any option that you put forward that does not involve destroying America?
44 posted on 06/26/2007 11:32:34 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: NYC Republican
You’re from New York, so your views can hardly have any meaning to Republicans or conservatives.
45 posted on 06/26/2007 11:36:15 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
This article is just “grabbing at straws” in trying to find something positive to say about anything! The U.S. will soon be a third world country forever, and there’s nothing that anyone can seriously do about this to prevent it from happening. “Shamnesty legislation” and the creation of the very socialistic “North American Union” will both keep being brought back again and again until they both eventually pass Congress and are officially signed into law by President Bush.

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The present U.S. government also seriously needs to be sued by all law abiding citizens and by all law abiding legal immigrants because the U.S. government has just discriminated against them for many generations to come!

Do you believe in term limits for Congress?

Take a deep breath. It's not over yet. Major changes usually come slowly. We just had a significant victory in the Supreme Court with the evisceration of free speech restrictions before elections. They'll be gunning to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine with a renewed zeal.

Start calling talk radio stations, both right and left wing, if any of the latter are left, literally. Tell them we need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits now! Let's roll!

46 posted on 06/27/2007 12:19:11 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: Iwo Jima

What a dumb post.


47 posted on 06/27/2007 6:05:06 AM PDT by NYC Republican (Conservatives' Biggest Problem- Single Issue Voters)
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To: Iwo Jima
Is there any option that you put forward that does not involve destroying America?

Do you believe in term limits for Congress?

Check my humble, new tagline. The neocoMs just lost a big one on the restrictions of free speech before elections. Fairness Doctrine BS is being proposed against talk radio. Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's roll!

48 posted on 06/27/2007 11:29:17 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: familyop
"...Yes, you did. I'm in favor of Duncan Hunter for the nomination..."

Good man, Hunter, and of course, I would be in favour of a 'Hunter-Thompson' ticket!

................ FRegards

49 posted on 06/27/2007 7:53:09 PM PDT by gonzo (In Florida, inmates make cigarettes in jail that I buy, and I can go to jail for smoking one! WTF?)
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