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COLOR-BARRED STUDENT SHUT OUT BY SCHOOL'S RACE QUOTA
NY Post ^ | Junem25, 2007 | DAN MANGAN

Posted on 06/25/2007 7:27:12 AM PDT by Maceman

June 25, 2007 -- A Brooklyn mother and father got the shock of their lives when school officials informed them their brilliant 11-year-old girl was denied admission to an elite public school - solely because she's of Indian descent. "I feel bad because I would have gotten in if I was white," Nikita Rau lamented over her failed bid to attend the Mark Twain School, IS 239, in Coney Island, a magnet school for gifted students.

It turns out Mark Twain - unlike all but one other city public school - admits students according to racial quotas established in 1974 by a federal judge who ordered the school's desegregation.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: admissions; class; discrimination; india; indianamericans; magnetschools; politicallycorrect; quotas; racism; viniusinvictus
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To: UltraKonservativen

It is an option when they ask “race”. At least in NYC, it is.


81 posted on 06/25/2007 2:04:41 PM PDT by juliej (vote gop)
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To: Myrddin

Gee, wouldn’t that be common sense ? When I was getting ready to go to high school back in the ole country in europe, we took an entrance exam at the school we wanted to go to (better schools had harder exams), and, before the admission date, they’d post the list, and an line on it. Everyone above the line got in. The rest went somewhere else. Very darn simple, and very free market (for a very socialist/former communist) place. Of course, they always accepted another whole classroom full for people with connections, but that’s a whole other story.


82 posted on 06/25/2007 2:21:16 PM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: farlander
That sounds like a fair approach. We could use a little bit of that kind of common sense here. Instead, we have government subsidized child care masquerading as "public schools". Attendance is mandatory...to ensure the government subsidy for each warm seat keeps the teachers and administrators well fed off the taxpayers.
83 posted on 06/25/2007 2:48:28 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: UltraKonservativen
When did Hispanic become a race?

It's actually at least two races. There are white Hispanics and black Hispanics according to some government agencies. The numbers get muddled a lot. For example, in racial bean-counting purposes in education or employment, white Hispanics might be a separate category. But when a white Hispanic commits a crime it is usually tallied as a crime by a white person.

84 posted on 06/25/2007 3:06:15 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: swain_forkbeard
Or what if she selected for herself a category which confers advantages? Is there a specific test to assess the accuracy of her selection?

That's durned good question. Do they have a "Minority Meter" (TM) to arbitrate disputes where they need to measure "blackness"?

85 posted on 06/25/2007 3:15:14 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Roccus

You betcha’!


86 posted on 06/25/2007 3:37:10 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: HitmanLV

“Pretty high ambitions for the parents of an 11 year old who scored only a 79 on the admissions test.”

Thats how Indian parents are.....

And 77 seems to be a good score for “others” to get in that school. Its truly sad she didnt make it with a 79 (for whatever reason). Even if its “only 79” and not a 100.


87 posted on 06/25/2007 3:42:33 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan

Clearly, many Indians scored better than she did. So did many people from other backgrounds. The connection between missing out on a music school with a 79, and visions of missing out on the Harvard & Yale experience, is dubious, and not to be encouraged.

You win some and you lose some. Sometimes you lose with a 79. It happens. Life goes on.


88 posted on 06/25/2007 3:49:59 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: HitmanLV

The attempt to force a desired ratio of Caucasian, Black, Asian, etc. always leads to someone believing that they have been discriminated against BECAUSE of their race.

It is my firm opinion that quotas and affirmative action programs have severely damaged race relations in this country. It was an experiment in social engineering that failed, and failed badly.

I would totally disregard race and concentrate on other factors such as those you suggested. Why should anyone be admitted, or denied admission, based on the color of their skin?

The basis of prejudice against blacks in this country was always assumed to be based on skin color. We were told we need to be a “colorblind” society. (and I agree with that)

If, in fact, skin color is the basis for it, how does paying attention to it in decisions such as these undo that wrong?

I have never seen a defense of affirmative action or quota systems that I thought was rational.


89 posted on 06/25/2007 4:06:29 PM PDT by EEDUDE (Thank God for the internet: Back room deals being disinfected by sunshine !)
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To: Maceman
Re: 58

I go even one better. I write in "Native American," since I was born here, as were my parents....

I guess that works...
When you open up your casino - let me know...

90 posted on 06/25/2007 4:07:36 PM PDT by El Cid (And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.)
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To: EEDUDE

I agree on quotas, and disagree on affirmative action. Like I wrote elsewhere, making racial background or economic background one factor among many in an admission decision is fine.


91 posted on 06/25/2007 4:11:19 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: Altura Ct.
Re: 70

“This isn’t the Balkans.”

Not yet but we are getting close. If we continue with the invasion and massive third world legal immigration it won’t be very much longer.

Actually I should apologize to the Balkans. They only have 3 different groups at each other throats (at least I think its only 3)...
We're creating a nation of hyphenated constituents where everyone is scrapping for this entitlement, or the other.
We as a people have forgotten our Foundations.
Paramount is Christ -- but even from a secular standpoint we don't know the Constitution (our Government pays scant attention to the Founder's principles) nor do we learn about the great men who started this country (other than that most of them were evil slave owning white men of Western European descent), and what they wrote/said and were willing to die for, or the basic fundamentals about America's history (the Puritans, Jamestown, Revolution, etc...)

92 posted on 06/25/2007 4:17:36 PM PDT by El Cid (For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.)
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To: Maceman

What is so gifted about scoring 79 on a test?


93 posted on 06/25/2007 4:29:23 PM PDT by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: metmom

Another day, another reason to homeschool.

It never seems to end, does it?


94 posted on 06/25/2007 5:04:04 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Maceman

Dnesh D’Souza tells a story (Illiberal Education) about a Chinese kid named Yang Pat Au whose principal claimed he was the best student his school had ever produced and couldn’t get into Berkeley because they were full up on Chinese kids at the time. That story and another one like it ended with Presidents of both Berkeley and Stanford being fired if memory serves.


95 posted on 06/25/2007 5:21:24 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: Maceman

I’m mostly white...but I’m for merit, not race.


96 posted on 06/25/2007 7:46:42 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson....IMWITHFRED.COM)
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To: PeteB570

Exactly...we’re only separated by 50k years at most. So the difference are really nothing.


97 posted on 06/25/2007 7:47:47 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson....IMWITHFRED.COM)
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To: HitmanLV

Affirmative action is probably a prime reason why any society will self-destruct. It strikes at the heart of the intellectual base - by breeding a generation of incompetent morons, who cannot solve problems effectively and who develop a sense of “entitlement” that the society owes them something just for being born in a so-called discriminated community. Other problems like terrorism, immigration, societal problems related to gays, abortion, everything could be solved if the society has a strong educational base.

In India, this concept has been taken to such ridiculous extents that even graduate schools at PhD level are being forced to accept 50% of ill-educated students hailing from certain castes of Hindus.


98 posted on 06/26/2007 2:27:07 AM PDT by design engineer
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To: dennisw

Depends on the type. Lighter skinned and/or richer Indians are accepted that way, not all.


99 posted on 06/26/2007 2:46:21 AM PDT by design engineer
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To: Maceman
It turns out Mark Twain - unlike all but one other city public school - admits students according to racial quotas established in 1974 by a federal judge who ordered the school's desegregation.

Ironically, the real Mark Twain once said this:

"In the first place, God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made school boards."

100 posted on 06/26/2007 2:55:16 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (If every Republican is a RINO, then no Republican is a RINO.)
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