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The more I read, the more I'm convinced Fred Thommpson is who I'm going to support. He's not even running - officially - and makes more sense than the rest of them.
1 posted on 06/21/2007 7:32:25 PM PDT by captjanaway
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My main question is: where is his team? Where will he get a good Secretary of Defense, a reliable Attorney General? What will his Chief of Staff be like?

You are not just voting for him, you are voting for the people he knows and could bring into an administration.


2 posted on 06/21/2007 7:39:40 PM PDT by proxy_user
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Amen. But then my true conservatism is being called into question tonight for disagreeing one time in 6 1/2 years with Dubya on the DISASTROUS amnesty bill. So I may be lying. Maybe I’m really voting for Hilly Chavez? It’s a mystery....


3 posted on 06/21/2007 7:41:14 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do Humanitarians eat?)
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If Jesus Christ himself were running today, we’d have to ask the same questions in light of today’s deception and corruption filled arena of national politics

He would, I wouldn't.

8 posted on 06/21/2007 7:54:37 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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Jesus Christ wouldn’t be running for office if he were on earth today. He’d have swept the world leaders off the chess board by now, and be helming all the governments an the planet as easily as opening a can of soup.

And he certainly wouldn’t be defending or explaining his positions. He’d simply be leading by proclamation and setting everything straight by the power of his word.


14 posted on 06/21/2007 7:59:01 PM PDT by Silly (http://www.paulklenk.us)
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If Fred Thompson follows the list of conservative issues on J. B. Williams website, I’m 100% for Fred Thompson.

Many of us thought GW Bush would follow those principles too, but he let us down. He started out OK with tax relief and the economy grew. He was right to fight back against terrorism, but he let Rumsfeld and the old Army way of setting up gold-plated camps in Iraq, instead of keeping the enemy off balance, bog us down. GW really lost us on immigration.

If we conservatives can’t get the GOP to clean itself up, we either need a new third party or another meeting of the sons of liberty on Lexington green.


16 posted on 06/21/2007 8:01:15 PM PDT by RicocheT
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The organization largely responsible for turning a good American conservative family into a spineless bunch of so-called “compassionate conservatives” whose greatest accomplishment might just be their destruction of the Republican Party and true American conservatism.

The author is the one who apparently bought in to the idea that the Bush family was a conservative family. Now, he's using his own mistake and applying it to Fred Thompson. The trouble is that there are not two Fred Thompson's. Fred is who he is. Being a member of CFR or any other think tank is not going to change that. Fred has never espoused 'compassionate conservatism' and has never advocated the Bush policies along those lines. There is no reason to think that he would start now. Especially when he's seen where that road leads.

19 posted on 06/21/2007 8:02:21 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Fred Thompson. AKA: POTUS 44)
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Fred another RINO?


25 posted on 06/21/2007 8:06:08 PM PDT by yield 2 the right (Life is a rock.....it will throw a lot at you and sometimes you get hit hard......)
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Here’s a site that I found yesterday. It contains information on his voting history and the like.

http://conservativesagainstfred.wordpress.com/


27 posted on 06/21/2007 8:06:35 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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Finally some honest discussion.
Mr Williams mirrors my thinking, though he far more informed.

Thanks for the article.

31 posted on 06/21/2007 8:14:36 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Which Fred is Running for President?


36 posted on 06/21/2007 8:20:00 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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>> If Jesus Christ himself were running today,

Now, that’s one way to stop a story in its tracks.


37 posted on 06/21/2007 8:22:38 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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If Jesus Christ himself were running today, we’d have to ask the same questions

I don't know about you, but I don't feel like questioning the Lord.



And please bless our Troops and their families.

Amen

38 posted on 06/21/2007 8:27:16 PM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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...comparison and pattern related to the stuff about the CFR in the posted opinion piece.

Fred Thompson is Chairman of Condoleeza Rice’s International Security Advisory Board in the State Dept.

Duncan Hunter: Vietnam combat veteran, 173rd Airborne and 75th Army Rangers, Bronze Star, and Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee until the Democrat majority was voted in during the 2006 election. Congressman Hunter continues to work in the Armed Services Committee.

Fred Thompson:
Fred Thompson voted in favor of the "1997 McCain-Feingold
overhaul of campaign finance."

Fred Thompson's record on immigration:

* Voted YES on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work. (Jul 1998)
* Voted YES on visas for skilled workers. (May 1998)
* Voted YES on limit welfare for immigrants. (Jun 1997)

Duncan Hunter's record on immigration:

* Voted YES on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project. (Jun 2006)
* Voted YES on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment. (May 2004)
* Voted NO on extending Immigrant Residency rules. (May 2001)
* Voted NO on more immigrant visas for skilled workers. (Sep 1998)
* Rated 100% by FAIR, indicating a voting record restricting immigration. (Dec 2003)


Fred Thompson:

* Voted YES on extending free trade to Andean nations. (May 2002)
* Voted YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam. (Oct 2001)
* Voted NO on removing common goods from national security export rules. (Sep 2001)
* Voted YES on permanent normal trade relations with China. (Sep 2000)
* Voted YES on expanding trade to the third world. (May 2000)
* Voted YES on renewing 'fast track' presidential trade authority. (Nov 1997)
* Voted YES on imposing trade sanctions on Japan for closed market. (May 1995)

Duncan Hunter:

* Voted NO on implementing CAFTA, Central America Free Trade. (Jul 2005)
* Voted YES on implementing US-Australia Free Trade Agreement. (Jul 2004)
* Voted NO on implementing US-Singapore free trade agreement. (Jul 2003)
* Voted NO on implementing free trade agreement with Chile. (Jul 2003)
* Voted YES on withdrawing from the WTO. (Jun 2000)
* Voted NO on 'Fast Track' authority for trade agreements. (Sep 1998)
* Rated 24% by CATO, indicating a pro-fair trade voting record. (Dec 2002)

Fred Thompson:

* Voted YES on permanent normal trade relations with China. (Sep 2000) [under "Free Trade"]

Duncan Hunter:

* Voted NO on Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. (May 2000) [under "Foreign Policy]



39 posted on 06/21/2007 8:27:18 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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I am glad he said this. This is the one thing I am truly worried about and that is will our next President do only what the big boys want?


40 posted on 06/21/2007 8:28:48 PM PDT by freekitty
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27 posts to the Hunter hijack...


41 posted on 06/21/2007 8:29:41 PM PDT by steve8714 ("A man needs a maid", my ass.)
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...and about the Advisory Board (more in common with the CFR, my emphasis in bold),...


http://www.state.gov/t/isn/isab/

International Security Advisory Board (ISAB)

The Secretary of State’s International Security Advisory Board (formerly called the Arms Control and Nonproliferation Advisory Board (ACNAB)) provides the Department with independent insight and advice on all aspects of arms control, disarmament, international security, and related aspects of public diplomacy. The ISAB is sponsored and overseen by the Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security. The Board provides its recommendations directly to the Secretary of State. The Board currently has 20 members and is chartered to have up to 25. Board members are national security experts with scientific, military, diplomatic, and political backgrounds. The Board meets in a plenary session on a quarterly basis.

Updated: April 19, 2007

http://www.state.gov/t/isn/isab/c17650.htm

Board Members

Senator Fred Thompson (Chairman)
— Dr. Michael R. Anastasio
— Dr. Kathleen Bailey
— Dr. Ashton B. Carter
— Ms. Alison B. Fortier
— Dr. William Graham
— Amb. Robert Joseph
— Mr. Mitchel B. Kugler
— Dr. Ronald F. Lehman, II
— Vice Admiral Robert R. Monroe, U.S. Navy (Ret.)
— Dr. Gordon C. Oehler
— Dr. Keith B. Payne
— Dr. Robert L. Pfaltzgraff, Jr.
— Senator Charles S. Robb
— Dr. C. Paul Robinson
— Dr. Amy Sands
— Dr. James R. Schlesinger
— Dr. William Schneider, Jr
— Dr. William Van Cleave
— Mr. R. James Woolsey

42 posted on 06/21/2007 8:33:58 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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Really all I know about Fred is what votes he cast in the Senate, really no more of an actual record than Obama, more conservative, yes, but no more or less of a record. I know he writes some speeches and makes some publicly, but I need more than that and am not willing to commit that much to trust, we have been burned too many times. I am not seeing Fred is “making more sense” than the rest of them. We can possibly do a blockade (of Iran), if we can get international cooperation? That is more sense, and on such a critical matter?

Blockading Iran is a horrible idea and would only strengthen their resolve, tie up our assets endlessly, collapse a few economies and get us 5-7 dollar/gal. gasoline and I have yet heard anyone else point this out. That is his idea of a good policy? I think many of us need to open our eyes and see where we are going. Once we get there it isn’t going to matter that we don’t like where we are, because that is where we will be for 8 years.


67 posted on 06/21/2007 9:16:52 PM PDT by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter '08 'Doing the jobs Americans aren't willing to do.')
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“But that doesn’t mean that an honest concerned American doesn’t need to ask the right questions before climbing fully onboard any political train today.”

Aaaaaaaaaaaamen.

Question, question, question.
Reveal, Reveal, Reveal
Duck.

My take on Fred....

“I don’t hear him say how he would effectively secure the border. I want details. He won’t give them.

On the other hand, as far as amnesty for illegal aliens goes...like Bush, he says he’s against it, but in the same breath says more specifically...

“there’s no good solution”, and

“then we’ll talk about what to do about other (illegal aliens)”, and says

we have to “figure out some way to make some differentiation between the kind of people that we have here” (illegal aliens), and continues by saying

“certainly no amnesty or nothing blanket like that”

and his position on amnesty could not be more questionable when he says, ““You’re going to have to, in some way, work out a deal where they (illegal aliens) can have some aspirations of citizenship”.”

Smacks of amnesty to me.”

“What he says here is that since he believes there is no good solution, he won’t give all illegals ‘blanket’ amnesty, but we will have to settle for a solution that will differentiate between what ‘kind’ of illegal aliens are here and ‘those’ will be given aspirations of citizenship, a deal, which is amnesty.

Non specific about border security, amnesty for a non-specific number of non-specified group of illegal aliens....add NAFTA and CFR along with the endorsement by George P Bush and other Bush teamers, too many red flags and so I question question whether or not he is the OBL/NAU candidate.
Don’t think for one stinking moment that those &*$%#) don’t have one. They do.”

“And they would have us believe he’s running as a “Washington outsider” too. Sounds good anyway. But take a closer look as I’ve been finding and you’ll see...

TransTexas Corridorer and GWBer, Jerry Patterson, who claims he didn’t even know FT, but played a big role in his push to the front. He says FT is not just running “to be President”.

No?

“I’ve never craved the job of president, but I want to do some things that only a president can do.”

Really? And with who’s advice and assistance?...

GWBer and Federal Reserver, Larry Lindsey

GWBer and Federalist Society, David McIntosh

GWBer and OBLer, Ed Gillespie

Chamber of Commercer, John Khachigian “The star power clearly works with new audiences, if you haven’t seen it before’” It surely does.

I’m sure that’s just the tip of the iceberg, but with folks from Fed. Reserve, Federalist Society, TTC, and Chambers of Commerce...one might begin to wonder if Fred Thompson isn’t the OBL’s Candidate for 2008.”

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.


72 posted on 06/21/2007 9:20:51 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Fred Thompson - Endorsed by George P. Bush. Is he the OBL Candidate? Connect the dots folks !)
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If Jesus Christ himself were running today, we’d have to ask the same questions

**sigh** That would be an answer to prayer for certain.

Even so, come quickly, Lord Jesus!

91 posted on 06/21/2007 9:57:02 PM PDT by Shelayne (I will continue to pray for President Bush and my country, as I am commanded to do by my Lord.)
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This Thompson IS running

TOMMY Thompson On Senate Compromise: “THIS HAS THE LOOK AND FEEL OF AMNESTY”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1835927/posts


95 posted on 06/21/2007 10:22:43 PM PDT by quietolong
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