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Study: Inkjet printers are filthy, lying thieves
Ars Technica ^ | 6/18/07 | Ken Fisher

Posted on 06/21/2007 1:05:59 PM PDT by TChris

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To: TChris

Thanks TChris.


41 posted on 06/21/2007 1:28:36 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: lesser_satan
I just keep printing until the print quality starts getting lousy.

Roger that. Anyone who takes the advice from a grey box unverified deserves to get hosed...

42 posted on 06/21/2007 1:29:39 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: F15Eagle
I think the whole scam was to sell printers at cost and make a stinking fortune charging $30 for a $1 ink cartridge.

Nothing new in that concept (think razors and Razor Blades).

43 posted on 06/21/2007 1:30:13 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: TChris

Sounds like it was a real mother. ;-)


44 posted on 06/21/2007 1:30:59 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: TChris

Epson does a great job printing pictures.

HP ink jets I use for mostly business printing.

Canon printers are probably my favorite, but the ink carts are smaller than other printers. Cheaper to print, but each cartridge only hold 500 pages of ink.


45 posted on 06/21/2007 1:33:25 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: massgopguy

I have printed quite a bit of photos and letters and such. Only thing I do is clean and align the heads often. For the $ it can’t be beat. I do believe it is a discontinued model though.


46 posted on 06/21/2007 1:34:39 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: TChris

I quite successfully refill HP black ink cartridges multiple times (Models in the 700, 800 and 900 series and a 1200). The color cartridges are more problematic and even when it works the color matching is questionable for photos.


47 posted on 06/21/2007 1:34:56 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: TChris

I have a wide carriage Epson dot matrix printer (LQ 1050 IIRC) that is free to anyone who will FReepmail me to get it. You pay shipping from Dallas.

Very cheap printing cost with the old ribbon printers.


48 posted on 06/21/2007 1:35:08 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Moose4

Not only that, but used 722s are cheap when you find one at the recycling center.


49 posted on 06/21/2007 1:38:23 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: TChris

I keep going until the sucker is spitting out white paper then I’ll reprint the last 10 pages of whatever I was printing.


50 posted on 06/21/2007 1:38:50 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: TChris

When I read the headline I thought that printers had joined the democrat party.


51 posted on 06/21/2007 1:39:22 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: HamiltonJay

“Went to lazer years ago, inkjet just isn’t worth the hassle, or cost of cartriges.”

I’m with you!

I had an HP Lazerjet 6P for 9 year and just switched to an Okidata 3200n color lazer and it works fantastic, full page color photos on plain paper that look like they were printed on photo paper.

They have really come down in price, bought the Okidata delivered for $192.


52 posted on 06/21/2007 1:39:25 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: cabojoe
...Does anyone here refill their own cartridges?...

I used to until I bought a small laser. Now I refill my own toner. Neither is too hard and you can generally refill a cartridge 4 or 5 times with no loss of quality. I really just got tired of how cheap the ink jets were made, they seemed to be designed to break every fourth cartridge. I have been quite happy with my laser and I do believe that it is a big cost saver in the long run!

53 posted on 06/21/2007 1:40:49 PM PDT by DaveyB (Ignorance is part of the human condition - atheism makes it permanent!)
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To: newgeezer
I also run my empties up to a cartridge refill joint. I get them refilled for about 1/2 the price. I take four or five at a time.
54 posted on 06/21/2007 1:41:42 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: TChris
LOL!


55 posted on 06/21/2007 1:41:50 PM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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To: hophead; massgopguy
We have dozens of C88 an C88+ deployed here at work. If you print pretty regularly with them (at least once a week) so the ink keeps flowing, they work superbly. We only have to align the heads once in a while.

For large batch printing, lasers are usually more economical though. Even color lasers aren't insanely expensive these days.

56 posted on 06/21/2007 1:42:32 PM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: cabojoe

I got a Minolta 2300W. Things about as big as a small washing machine.

Refills for this baby were over a hundred bucks each. As these things go, in time somebody figures out how to beat the system.

Sure enough you can now buy refill ink and re-fill the cartridges yourself. I was nervous as all get-out and some things in the surround ended up a weird shade of yellow and cyan....but it worked! For pennies, PENNIES I tell ya, on the dollar to buy a new refill.

One thing that was interesting, in order to get the machine to quit telling you it’s low on color you gotta follow this long list of instructions, unscrewing this and removing that. To fill the cartridge with more color is a ten second deal but to turn off the flag that keeps telling the computer to warn you the color’s low is a big damn deal.

So I didn’t do it. I figured the hell with it. I ain’t making a career out of changing this cartridge. So I put it all back together and every time I print the computer tells me I need black, I need cyan, I need magenta. I keep clicking okay, okay, okay...and boom, it prints.

Bit of a pain but that other long-winded crap I hadda do would have had me cussing.


57 posted on 06/21/2007 1:43:47 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: TChris
OH NOES! First this, now TONER PIRATES!

Scenario: You get a call from someone who claims to be from your regular office supply company offering a great deal on copier paper, toner or other supplies.
Scam: The supplies never arrive, or the quality is inferior and overpriced, and the company has no relation to your regular supplier.

Be wary of anyone who calls claiming to be from your office supply company and offers you a “last chance” to buy copier paper, toner or other supplies at the current price before it increases. It could be a “paper pirate” or “toner phoner” working for a company that has no connection with your regular supplier.

Ask for the person’s name, the company name, and a phone number. Then contact your regular supplier to verify the story.

Promises of cheapest prices may not always be true. Shop around with companies you know and trust for the best deals.

Use only good quality supplies. Inferior quality office supplies can damage your equipment and invalidate your warranties or maintenance contracts.

Even if no one at your business places an order, you might receive a bogus invoice for supplies that were sent anyway or that were never delivered at all.

Designate specific people in your company to handle office supply purchases. They should know who your regular suppliers are and control the ordering process.

Before paying invoices, the person who is responsible for your bills should confirm that the supplies were ordered, who they came from, that they have been delivered, and that they were the correct brands.

If the supplier misrepresented itself or the goods, write the company a letter explaining why you are disputing the bill. Offer to send the supplies back if you received them, at the supplier’s expense. Keep a copy of the letter for documentation.

Don’t be pressured into paying. Fraudulent companies often use threats of collection or legal action to get payment.

Report paper pirates and toner phoners to law enforcement agencies. The Business Technology Association can provide more tips about these scams and welcomes information about fraudulent suppliers.

58 posted on 06/21/2007 1:46:16 PM PDT by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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To: cabojoe
I have a Lexmark and refill my own. I get the ink from "The Filling Station". They're on the web. I print a lot so I buy it by the bottle. It's very easy.

Found the same printer on a "close out" shelf. Bought two of them. At $35 close out each and with cartridges included, I got a great deal and have extra printers (that I like) for the inevitable.

59 posted on 06/21/2007 1:47:19 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: newgeezer
My Epson 860 always worked great until I ran out of ink without a replacement cartridge handy.

I had the old cartridge out for a couple weeks until I got new ones. Now it don’t work at all.

I think it must have dried ink on the feeder thingy?

I live in BFE and there is no place to take it in to have it cleaned or looked at.

60 posted on 06/21/2007 1:48:49 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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