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Hindu Mob in India Beats, Strips, Parades Pastor
spcm.org ^ | June 12 , 2007 | Vishal Arora

Posted on 06/14/2007 5:57:53 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: neither-nor; HiTech RedNeck; Maneesh; Gengis Khan

neither-nor — I appreciate your comment.

A little background on me: I’m not a “when-it-is-convenient” Christian. I spent years researching what truth is, which of the various religions represented truth, which was consistent with observable fact, and so on. I concluded that the religion that Jesus Christ lived and preached was true, and that therefore others are not true.

I’ve found the faith that Jesus preached to be real, to be dependable. I’ve found Jesus to be dependable.

The thing is, Jesus didn’t allow for other “religions.” He proclaimed that He was “the way,” the *only* way, and that there was no other way to reconciliation with God other than through Him. God the Father saw fit to reveal Himself through Jesus, and not through another. So it follows that Jesus is Truth, and other attempts to make sense of “all this” are just not. Including Hinduism.

I have no hard feelings against Hindus, of course. My prayer is that someday soon they come to know Jesus as their Savior. And “Savior” is something Krishna isn’t. I need a Savior, not a man who says fascinating things.


141 posted on 06/17/2007 7:33:52 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Gengis Khan; Theo
“I should add that the father of Hinduism is the same person as the father of Islam.”

That has to be the most absurd statement I have ever read on FR. ISLAM started in 622 AD and Hinduism has been around since 3000 BC or so. How can the source be the same ?

Also, the teachings of the 2 religions could not be more different. ISLAM is inherently violent and has grown at the tip of the sword. Hindusim is the most tolerant and non violent major religion with a complete acceptance of other faiths.

Read the Koran and the Bhagwad Gita and the difference are night and day. Look also at the history of Islamic civilizations that is replete with murder and that of Hindu India which has never been imperialist.

142 posted on 06/18/2007 6:27:29 AM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: aruanan
“Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of Muslims the Hindus killed in the 20th century.”

While deplorable, all these incidents were in response to agression by Muslims. Muslims have killed 50 million Hindus in the last 1200 years in keeping with their barbaric way of life.

If you knew your history, you just would not make an absurd statement like that. ISLAM is inherently a violent and barbaric cult, how much more evidence do you need to see on a daily basis as proof ?

143 posted on 06/18/2007 6:38:15 AM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: Theo; Maneesh; neither-nor
Your researching is faulty and smacks of ego. Spending years on a research thats is fundamentally wrong does not make you more knowledgeable then the rest of us.

There is only one God and he has no name, no form or religion but he has infinite number of manifestations. He has made his presence known to mankind universally through time and space and will continue doing so. Any religion claiming their’s is the only path to God is fundamentally wrong. Cuz most of those religion evolved only a couple of thousand years ago. Humanity existed for the last 30-50,000 odd years and they knew about God all the time. Concept of God didn't begin with Jesus. Moreover human beings created the religion called Christianity, not Jesus. The idea of God will last forever only his name will change, form will change and religions will change. Only the crux of his teachings will remain the same.

144 posted on 06/18/2007 8:00:10 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan
That is a very wise opinion and my primary objection to Christianity (which I am strongly in favor of) is the belief that if you don’t believe in Jesus then you will go to Hell and you are not religious.

The only caveat I would make to that statement is ISLAM because their teachings are blatantly violent and differ sharply from all other religions. I would even question if ISLAM is a bona fide religion as it is a political system and controls every aspect of a person’s life and condones the horrendous treatment of women.

145 posted on 06/18/2007 9:12:38 AM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: Maneesh

Funny that, for a most peaceful and tolerant religion, some of its adherents are awfully fond of human sacrifice and worshiping a murderous six armed blue skinned demon.

As Theo noted, there is only one God, and one path to salvation, and that is through Christ. All this mumbo jumbo equal-equal syncretic nonsense are the serpent’s words. Designed to confuse and lead people astray from the Truth.

God does not condemn anyone, people condemn themselves by forsaking his light.


146 posted on 06/18/2007 11:37:06 AM PDT by cmdjing
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To: cmdjing
Its much better to pray to a mythological “demon” then to a real demon like Mao. So kiss my “six armed blue skinned demon”.

And howz you fetus soup today?

147 posted on 06/18/2007 11:45:35 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: cmdjing

” there is only one God, and one path to salvation, and that is through Christ. “

So why dont YOU pray to him? Your godless country needs him more then we do.


148 posted on 06/18/2007 11:49:49 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Maneesh

Who knows what the original creator of Islam intended. We can only guess it may have either been fundamentally wrong or is altered and degraded by its own tenets over the years as is the case with both Christianity and Hinduism. Both Christianity and Hinduism have deviated in many different directions form its original root and over a period of time have picked up many vices and perversion on the way. Definitely more so in case of Islam. Neither Christianity nor Hinduism is a monolith. There are several contradictions among them. In case of Christianity, I am not sure their current Evangelism that is practiced is true Christianity.


149 posted on 06/18/2007 12:05:24 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Maneesh
If you knew your history, you just would not make an absurd statement like that. ISLAM is inherently a violent and barbaric cult, how much more evidence do you need to see on a daily basis as proof ?

A. I do know my history.
B. It's not an absurd statement since it was referring to a specific period of time.
C. The violence in India went both ways quite freely.
D. Your 50 million figure is suspect.
150 posted on 06/18/2007 12:27:06 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: cmdjing
“Funny that, for a most peaceful and tolerant religion, some of its adherents are awfully fond of human sacrifice and worshiping a murderous six armed blue skinned demon.”

You can go back to the history of Christianity and find many horrific facts as well. All religions have that in their past. Here is a rational way to evaluate.

What is the inherent message from the religion’s holy books ?

How do the vast majority of the religion’s adherents live today, do they treat women well for example ?

On both counts, ISLAM is the religion that fails, Christianity and Hinduism in 2007 are forces for good. To put 1 religion down does not make your better. This whole notion of my god is better than yours is demented and if you really believe that all the non-Christians in the world are lesser people and will go to hell then you are a non violent version of the Taliban.

151 posted on 06/18/2007 2:12:44 PM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: aruanan
Show me where in any holy book of Hinduism, it promoted and condones violence against infidels, horrendous treatment of women, beheading, lying, treating non believers as third class citizens if they live in your nation and having no tolerance of other religions. Also spreading your religion by force.

All of those are essential parts of ISLAm and nowhere to be found in Hinduism, if you still think that the two are equally violence prone, then you really do not know history.

How did ISLAM spread since 622 across the world, at the tip of the sword. Hinduism along with Judaism have no evangelical zeal in them at all so we do not go out and try to convert. In ISLAM, converting the world to Sharia law is their stated goal.

Where is there more religious freedom, Saudi Arabia or India ? I grew up in India, went to catholic schools all my life, had Christian friends and neighbors and never once saw an issue with that and have nothing but admiration for Christianity. Find me 1 human being who could tell you a similar story from the Middle East.

152 posted on 06/18/2007 2:19:26 PM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: cmdjing; Maneesh

BTW how are Christians treated in China?


153 posted on 06/18/2007 4:27:08 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: kellynla

“The extremists then stripped the pastor naked and hung a board around his neck that said, “I am the one who was converting people,” before parading him through the area.”

A true honor.


154 posted on 06/18/2007 4:32:35 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (The Republican party of today is the Whig party of 1856.)
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To: aruanan; Maneesh
A. You DO know your leftist history.
B. Now read some real history.
C. Click here http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=4649
D. Only the TRUTH will set you FRee!
155 posted on 06/18/2007 4:33:02 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan
That is a terrific article, thanks for the link. I have read “THe sword of the prophet” from the same author and this appears to be from that book. India and Hindus have been the biggest victims of Islamic barbarism.
156 posted on 06/18/2007 5:52:13 PM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: Gengis Khan
A. You DO know your leftist history.

Yeah, sure. Far from being the biggest victim in history of Islam, India is still a nation existing from ancient times with a non-Muslim identity. This cannot be said of everything else from India to the Atlantic Ocean, including the Persian Empire and Christian Egypt.

Any thoughtful person who knows history and religion would be anti-Islam. Along with Communism, Naziism, and the Black Death, Islam has been responsible for more death and destruction on the face of the planet than just about anything else since the last asteroid impact. Islam was started by predators. It has spread by predation. It has lived off the decaying corpses of the civilizations it has destroyed. It is a vast, ancient sea of corruption, oppression, fanaticism, and ignorance lapping up against the shores of the present, kept alive by the fortuitous accident of living above huge reserves of petroleum.
157 posted on 06/18/2007 9:01:42 PM PDT by aruanan
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“India is still a nation existing from ancient times with a non-Muslim identity. “

Which is why it had to go through being “the biggest victim in history of Islam” . It would have been far easier to bow down to the invading hordes and accept Islam like the entire Islamic belt from India’s border to the Atlantic and escape all the genocide. India is the reason why Islam didnt manage to proceed further eastward. That came with a very high price.
Besides THEY invaded India, India didnt invade them.

If only they had taught you all they in your leftist madrassah.

158 posted on 06/19/2007 11:25:48 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan
If only they had taught you all they in your leftist madrassah.

If you make assumptions this big, I've got to wonder what else you're swallowing with those camels.
159 posted on 06/19/2007 12:54:21 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan
You are the one in denial about Muslim atrocities on Indians. Whatever I am swallowing is a lot less in size then the camel sh*t you digesting.
160 posted on 06/20/2007 4:03:17 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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